Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

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Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

#1 Postby HalloweenGale » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:02 pm

I got to wondering today, and thought, will the NHC include any of the systems from this past season, such as the 95L that went south of here as a TS, or even a sub TS? I mean last year we had one form under our noses, and it went undected, until the post season.
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Re: Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

#2 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:26 pm

HalloweenGale wrote:I got to wondering today, and thought, will the NHC include any of the systems from this past season, such as the 95L that went south of here as a TS, or even a sub TS? I mean last year we had one form under our noses, and it went undected, until the post season.


I think the best chance for a post-season addition lies with 96L(?) in August in roughly the same area Chantal was in. I believe it was a tropical depression for about 24 hours, and a 35-40 kt tropical storm briefly in that time period.

Another candidate was an invest (98L?) near the Azores in early October, although that was clearly never tropical - maybe it was subtropical.
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#3 Postby Coredesat » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:37 pm

The NHC has already stated that the system in August is not being considered.
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#4 Postby hurricanetrack » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:31 am

I am wondering now about Olga last night. Look at past satellite shots and buoy data to know why this would be my guess as a candidate for review. Olga was certainly an identifiable low level circulation with limited convection for several days after it was classified as "dead". Then, last night and really for most of yesterday (December 15/16) it became much more active and looked a lot like any tropical storm we have seen becoming entrained in to a strong frontal system. We'll see. Would make for a wild December in the tropical cyclone history books.
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Re: Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

#5 Postby yzerfan » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:16 am

I'm looking forward to what they have to say about Erin.

Alas, it was a curious enough storm that it's probably going to be the last report published.
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Re: Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

#6 Postby Cryomaniac » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:13 pm

yzerfan wrote:I'm looking forward to what they have to say about Erin.

Alas, it was a curious enough storm that it's probably going to be the last report published.


Me too, it was an interesting storm.
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#7 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:00 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:I am wondering now about Olga last night. Look at past satellite shots and buoy data to know why this would be my guess as a candidate for review. Olga was certainly an identifiable low level circulation with limited convection for several days after it was classified as "dead". Then, last night and really for most of yesterday (December 15/16) it became much more active and looked a lot like any tropical storm we have seen becoming entrained in to a strong frontal system. We'll see. Would make for a wild December in the tropical cyclone history books.


I disagree, it looked more like a squall line derecho than anything...
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#8 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:11 pm

Yeah, Olga had no closed circulation.

I'm thinking MAYBE they'll consider 95L at 46N. Honestly, I think they caught all of the truely tropical storms this year.
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#9 Postby Coredesat » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:51 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:I am wondering now about Olga last night. Look at past satellite shots and buoy data to know why this would be my guess as a candidate for review. Olga was certainly an identifiable low level circulation with limited convection for several days after it was classified as "dead". Then, last night and really for most of yesterday (December 15/16) it became much more active and looked a lot like any tropical storm we have seen becoming entrained in to a strong frontal system. We'll see. Would make for a wild December in the tropical cyclone history books.


Anyone who saw my posts the last few nights knows what I think of this. :lol:

But yes, Olga had lost its closed circulation as it merged with the frontal system; the convection that fired along the remnant surface trough as a result of the unstable air and favorable diffluence ahead of the front was the beginnings of a fairly strong squall line derecho. The system had few, if any tropical characteristics at this point or at any point since it lost all its convection (the convection that fired as it moved across the Yucatan was too brief and not expansive enough to classify it as a tropical cyclone at that point, IMO).
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Re: Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

#10 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:54 am

Cryomaniac wrote:
yzerfan wrote:I'm looking forward to what they have to say about Erin.

Alas, it was a curious enough storm that it's probably going to be the last report published.


Me too, it was an interesting storm.


I think they will make it a 55kt tropical storm over OKC

Noel I think was tropical much farther north than when they declared extratropical, I think they will extend the track to 43n 69w, but it was probably extratropical between being declared and the gulf stream and at least became sub tropical again
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Re: Will there be anything interesting in the post season review

#11 Postby Hurricanehink » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:45 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
Cryomaniac wrote:
yzerfan wrote:I'm looking forward to what they have to say about Erin.

Alas, it was a curious enough storm that it's probably going to be the last report published.


Me too, it was an interesting storm.


I think they will make it a 55kt tropical storm over OKC

Noel I think was tropical much farther north than when they declared extratropical, I think they will extend the track to 43n 69w, but it was probably extratropical between being declared and the gulf stream and at least became sub tropical again


The TCR is already out; it becomes extratropical at 0000 UTC on November 3, around the same time it was operationally.
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