Snow in Bhagdad-1st time in history..

[hial2]

Good afternoon!

This is as amazing as snow in Miami back in 1977,,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22608593/

Someone knows how this correlates with the global warming theory? I'm really confused..

Thanks!

[Scott Patterson]

Someone knows how this correlates with the global warming theory? I'm really confused..

I don't see what this has to do with warming. It has to do with precipitation. Baghdad gets plenty cold to snow; it's just too dry most of the time and is usually clear when it's cool.

This is as amazing as snow in Miami back in 1977

Snow in Baghdad is indeed very rare, but the lack of snow isn't due to the lack in freezing temperatures. Miami is a much warmer place in winter than Baghdad. Miami Beach for example, has an average low of 63F degrees in January, far too cold to snow most of the time. Baghdad is much colder in winter and has an average low of 39F in January. That's not far above freezing and it gets cold enough to snow on a regular basis. Temperatures occasionally dip into the teens in Baghdad. It just doesn't snow because usually it is too dry and when it rains in winter, the precip comes from the south and from warm systems. The cool air comes from the north, but when that happens all the precip is usually blocked by the high mountains of Turkey and Iran and thus cool northerly systems almost never bring precip in any forms such as snow.

Even if the earth warmed by five or ten degrees, it would still get cold enough to snow in Baghdad. It just wouldn't (at least hardly at all) snow because the cooler systems are too dry.

[hial2]

Someone knows how this correlates with the global warming theory? I'm really confused..

I don't see what this has to do with warming. It has to do with precipitation. Baghdad gets plenty cold to snow; it's just too dry most of the time and is usually clear when it's cool.

This is as amazing as snow in Miami back in 1977

Snow in Baghdad is indeed very rare, but the lack of snow isn't due to the lack in freezing temperatures. Miami is a much warmer place in winter than Baghdad. Miami Beach for example, has an average low of 63F degrees in January, far too cold to snow most of the time. Baghdad is much colder in winter and has an average low of 39F in January. That's not far above freezing and it gets cold enough to snow on a regular basis. Temperatures occasionally dip into the teens in Baghdad. It just doesn't snow because usually it is too dry and when it rains in winter, the precip comes from the south and from warm systems. The cool air comes from the north, but when that happens all the precip is usually blocked by the high mountains of Turkey and Iran and thus cool northerly systems almost never bring precip in any forms such as snow.

Even if the earth warmed by five or ten degrees, it would still get cold enough to snow in Baghdad. It just wouldn't (at least hardly at all) snow because the cooler systems are too dry.

Ok, thanks for the info..It's hard to digest all the stuff you hear about global warming and its effects..

[HURAKAN]

People want to hype everything so much that anything weird happens with the weather, then it's global warming.

Global warming is occurring but weather extremes have always occurred, with global warming or not.

[Ptarmigan]

Baghdad is further north than Miami. Also, it is further inland. I notice Baghdad is a lot hotter in the summer than Tehran.

[Pedro Fernández]

In our forum, there was a member who posted an interesting topic. He had found a new on Internet about a "solar hibernation" in 20 years, which would generate a global cooling (new theory against global warming? ).

Here is the link to that new (in spanish):
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/332515/ ... to/global/

Anyway, I don't think snow in Bagdag is related to this phenomenon.-

[JBG]

:uarrow: People want to hype everything so much that anything weird happens with the weather, then it's global warming.

Global warming is occurring but weather extremes have always occurred, with global warming or not.

I'm a believer that climate is cyclical. I do not believe in man-made global warming. The alarms over it are as convincing as people worrying about daylight ending by comparing hours of daylight in July and November, and extrapolating those trends indefinitely.

I believe that climate's cycles, similarly, will flip in good time, regardless of what junketeers in Bali say.

[JBG]

Here is the link to that new (in spanish):
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/332515/ ... to/global/

Is that available in English?

[Pedro Fernández]

Here is the link to that new (in spanish):
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/332515/ ... to/global/

Is that available in English?

I think so... Or something similar. Please go to the grey windows in the text:

http://www.desdeelexilio.com/2008/01/07 ... a-el-frio/

[ohiostorm]

I was never completely sold on the whole global warming thing. The climates go through cycles. We were warm before, and we will be cooler again. Don't get me wrong, I know we are still messing up the atmosphere and we are warming but is it really as much as people make it out to be? Weather extremes have been happening since the beginning of Earth and won't ever stop.

[Coredesat]

In our forum, there was a member who posted an interesting topic. He had found a new on Internet about a "solar hibernation" in 20 years, which would generate a global cooling (new theory against global warming? ).

Here is the link to that new (in spanish):
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/332515/ ... to/global/

Not sure how much faith I have in that theory, since the sun will get less active anyway after 11 years due to the next sunspot cycle ending (there is one about to begin).

[Pedro Fernández]

After reading lot of news & theories about global warming, climate change... after seeing Al Gore film............ Lots of interesting data about that.................. I have no idea what will it happen with global climate. I prefer to see (I'm a cloud gazer at least...) any change everyday.

[timNms]

I'm not sold on global warming. My son and I were looking at some climate data from our state a few weeks ago. We were both amazed to find that most of the record high temps for our area was recorded before I was born and that was over 45 yrs ago. I was also interested to find that a lot of the low temps came during some of the same years that had record high temps.

[JBG]

I'm not sold on global warming. My son and I were looking at some climate data from our state a few weeks ago. We were both amazed to find that most of the record high temps for our area was recorded before I was born and that was over 45 yrs ago. I was also interested to find that a lot of the low temps came during some of the same years that had record high temps.

In 1967, the famous "Ice Bowl", or the N.F.L. championship game between the Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys, the game time temperature was -13F or -24C. The gametime temperature was -18C or -1F, proving the insidious role of man-made global warming, and Bush/Harper's plundering of the environment.

Excerpts below, link here:

The temperature at Sunday’s kickoff was minus-1, and a 12-mile-an-hour breeze from the west created a wind-chill factor of minus-23. It was the coldest game in the recorded history of the Giants, and the second-coldest recorded game in Packers history. The temperature for 1967’s Ice Bowl, the N.F.L. championship game against the Cowboys, was minus-13.

Some form of decisive, even panicky action is in order. FN1

FN1 - And the good news is that the Giants won in overtime, 23-20. On to beat New England!!! Arriba!!!