The term 'pinwheel eye' exists.

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The term 'pinwheel eye' exists.

#1 Postby Pedro Fernández » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:57 am

I open this topic due to the Chacor's reply in the topic about 'FUNA'. Yesterday, I made this question: Is FUNA showing a pinwheel eye? Then, Chacor answered me that he had never heard the term pinwheel eye and he thought I was refering to pinhole eye. After that I thought I was wrong and I had confused the term in English.

But... I have been thinking about that since yesterday and, looking for more data in Google, I have found the term which I was refering yesterday. Please, look at this image.

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It is hurricane ISABEL, of 2003 season. Look at its eye... This is a pinwheel eye.

Now, look at this image of FUNA:

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And now, a little indication drawn over the image:

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Inside the eye of FUNA, there are three or four cloudy structures like the spokes of an alloy wheel...

This is my opinion.
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#2 Postby artist » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:53 pm

awesome pics! I think I have heard of this referred by another name but can't remember it. Maybe someone that knows will come along and tell us.
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#3 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:06 pm

I also observed an even rarer occurrence - the "Star Trek communicator Pin Eye" effect:

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#4 Postby Squarethecircle » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:08 pm

:uarrow: Is your point that just because the structure seems like something insane that it doesn't necessarily mean that there is anything out of the ordinary? Or are you just poking fun?
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#5 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:11 pm

Squarethecircle wrote::uarrow: Is your point that just because the structure seems like something insane that it doesn't necessarily mean that there is anything out of the ordinary? Or are you just poking fun?


The latter. My communicator pin pic was from Isabel, too. When I loaded that picture with McIDAS I saw the pin shape immediately. Isabel had some fascinating structures inside its eye. Pinwheels, multiple mini vortices, and my Star Trek pin.

Just trying to liven up the discussion with a little humor on a cold winter day. ;-)

Here's another shot showing the center with 5 mesovortices rotating around a central vortex, just as had been predicted would happen in an annular hurricane by some models:

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#6 Postby Squarethecircle » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:03 pm

:uarrow: Yeah, Isabel was pretty darn awesome. I think I saw some cool stuff in Krosa's eye as well, though it was only a minor feature.

Thanks for the humor, BTW. :D
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#7 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:35 pm

wxman57 wrote:I also observed an even rarer occurrence - the "Star Trek communicator Pin Eye" effect:

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It does look like it.
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#8 Postby Pedro Fernández » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:28 am

I think this type of rare features in the eye of hurricanes is related to annular hurricanes, although I am not sure at all............. :oops:
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#9 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:39 pm

Well, I dont know about pinwheel eye, but the features inside of Ophelia's eye that were caught on the local radar (MHX) are definitely interesting.

I believe these swirls proved critical in maintaining Ophelia's eastern eyewall, which allowed it to transport those stronger winds to the surface as the wall rotated up onto land. If you view the radar and look, where the swirls touch the eyewall, there is immediately an explosion of thunderstorms added into it. Now, are these just thunderstorms that would of occured without the swirls? Maybe, but if so, why are they not forming elsewhere or while the swirls are not present in that area?

http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/a ... localradar
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#10 Postby Pedro Fernández » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:27 am

Wow................ Incredible animation :eek: :eek:

Pinwheel eyes could be related to Hot Towers...

http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a0 ... index.html

Perhaps that storms explosion is related to them, Bruna.
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Re: The term 'pinwheel eye' exists.

#11 Postby Crostorm » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:54 am

This one is also Isabel-pentagram

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Re: The term 'pinwheel eye' exists.

#12 Postby KatDaddy » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:58 am

What type of weather conditions occur in and around the mesovortices? Is it similar to tornadic conditions rotating around the eyewall? It looks like low clouds around the eye with no convection. I bet it would be amazing to how rapid the low clouds would be moving in the mesovortices.
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Re: The term 'pinwheel eye' exists.

#13 Postby Crostorm » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:57 am

:eek: Look this one :eek:

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#14 Postby Coredesat » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:42 pm

That's just Isabel again, from around the same time period - same story (well-defined mesovortices in the eye). :P
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:13 pm

What about these ones!

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Re: The term 'pinwheel eye' exists.

#16 Postby HurricaneRobert » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:04 pm

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Just a little puffy cloud :ggreen:
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