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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#21 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:00 am

Well, today may be semi-active in the Gulf South, but February 13th itself doesn't look super exciting. Except maybe in Florida.



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...MID/SOUTHERN ATLANTIC SEABOARD...
CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL ACROSS MOST OF THE NATION APPEARS LOW
WEDNESDAY/WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THIS INCLUDES MUCH OF THE SOUTHEAST...
WHERE LOWER/MID TROPOSPHERIC DRYING AHEAD OF APPROACHING UPPER
TROUGH AXIS COULD END THE RISK OF STORMS BY EARLY IN THE DAY.
HOWEVER...DEEPER PRE-FRONTAL LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE IS EXPECTED TO
LINGER ACROSS THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...PERHAPS
NORTHWARD INTO THE VICINITY OF A FRONTAL WAVE OVER EASTERN NORTH
CAROLINA.

HIGHEST PROBABILITIES FOR SEVERE STORMS APPEAR TO EXIST ACROSS THE
SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA...WHERE FRONTAL
PASSAGE WILL BE LATEST. THIS COULD ALLOW FOR LINEAR PRE-FRONTAL
CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WEAK TO MODERATE BOUNDARY LAYER
INSTABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH PEAK AFTERNOON HEATING...SUPPORTED BY A
LARGELY UNIDIRECTIONAL BUT STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR...WITH SURFACE
FLOW PROGGED TO VEER AHEAD OF THE FRONT EARLIER IN THE DAY. THE
RISK FOR DAMAGING WINDS/HAIL PROBABLY WILL BE THE PRIMARY SEVERE
THREATS. BUT...MORE DISCRETE STORMS...INCLUDING ISOLATED SUPERCELLS
STILL SEEM POSSIBLE ALONG THE COASTAL SEA BREEZE...MAINLY SOUTH OF
PALM BEACH...WHERE LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPHS MAY MAINTAIN A BIT MORE
CLOCKWISE CURVATURE.

..KERR.. 02/12/2008
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#22 Postby Dionne » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:11 am

At this moment there are three severe thunderstorm warnings in Louisiana moving towards the river and coming into Mississippi. Our precip forecast is 100% with upwards of one inch of rainfall. Lets hope that's all it does!
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#23 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:25 am

TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 51
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1025 AM CST TUE FEB 12 2008

TORNADO WATCH 51 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 400 PM CST FOR THE
FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

LAC001-003-005-007-009-011-019-023-033-037-039-045-047-051-053-
055-057-063-071-075-077-079-087-089-091-093-095-097-099-101-103-
105-109-113-115-117-121-125-122200-
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0051.080212T1625Z-080212T2200Z/

LA
. LOUISIANA PARISHES INCLUDED ARE

ACADIA ALLEN ASCENSION
ASSUMPTION AVOYELLES BEAUREGARD
CALCASIEU CAMERON EAST BATON ROUGE
EAST FELICIANA EVANGELINE IBERIA
IBERVILLE JEFFERSON JEFFERSON DAVIS
LAFAYETTE LAFOURCHE LIVINGSTON
ORLEANS PLAQUEMINES POINTE COUPEE
RAPIDES ST. BERNARD ST. CHARLES
ST. HELENA ST. JAMES ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST
ST. LANDRY ST. MARTIN ST. MARY
ST. TAMMANY TANGIPAHOA TERREBONNE
VERMILION VERNON WASHINGTON
WEST BATON ROUGE WEST FELICIANA
$$


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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#24 Postby Dionne » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:32 am

The same tornado watch now extends into SW Mississippi.
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#25 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:49 am

RUC forecast for mid-afternoon for New Orleans suggests a bit of a stable lower layer, perhaps the effect of cooling due to flow off the shelf waters, but strong mid-level instability, and sufficient shear for at least a chance of tornadoes.

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#26 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:33 pm

The probabilities listed by the SPC for the tornado watch are 20% and 10%, which usually only results in a severe thunderstorm watch.
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#27 Postby Squarethecircle » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:33 pm

:uarrow: I wonder, then, what their reasoning is.
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#28 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:34 pm

Squarethecircle wrote::uarrow: I wonder, then, what their reasoning is.


I wonder the same too.

There should also be a Severe Thunderstorm Watch to the west for the middle and upper Texas coast for the extending bow echo...
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#29 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:43 pm

Cell forming ahead of the main line approaching Acadia Parish.


These are the ones that could become tornadic.


Disclosure- I have drunk intoxicating beverages to excess at the Rice Palace in Crowley, and at a private residence in that fine town as well.
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#30 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:12 pm

Radar indicated Tornado Warning for parts of LaFourche and Jefferson parishes.
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#31 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:24 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:Radar indicated Tornado Warning for parts of LaFourche and Jefferson parishes.



Plaquemines Parish added, but suspected tornado should remain in rural areas.

That cell, if it were too hang together, may move ashore somewhere in the Biloxi area in a couple of hours.
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#32 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:26 pm

Speaking of Biloxi...

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0208
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1212 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2008

AREAS AFFECTED...FAR SERN MS/SRN AL/WRN AND CENTRAL FL PANHANDLE

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY

VALID 121812Z - 122015Z

SEVERE THREAT IS SLOWLY INCREASING ACROSS PARTS OF THE CENTRAL GULF
COAST REGION JUST E OF WW 0051. WITH THIS THREAT EXPECTED TO EXPAND
SLOWLY EWD WITH TIME...NEW WW WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED EWD INTO ERN
AL/THE FL PANHANDLE.

ORGANIZED CONVECTIVE LINE CONTINUES MOVING SEWD ACROSS LA/SWRN MS
ATTM...WITH ISOLATED CELLS INCREASING AHEAD OF THE MAIN LINE. AREA
VWPS CONTINUE TO REVEAL SHEAR IN THE LOWEST COUPLE OF KM SUFFICIENT
TO SUPPORT LOW-LEVEL UPDRAFT ROTATION. INDEED...CELLS DEVELOPING IN
FAR SERN LA S OF LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN HAVE BEGUN ROTATING PER LIX
WSR-88D. WHILE A CURRENT LACK OF INSTABILITY EXISTS FROM LA
EWD...CONTINUED SLOW INCREASE IN LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE IS EXPECTED
GIVEN SLY/SELY SURFACE FLOW -- WHICH SHOULD ALLOW SLOW/MARGINAL
DESTABILIZATION TO OCCUR THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...ALONG WITH AN
ACCOMPANYING INCREASE IN SEVERE POTENTIAL.

..GOSS.. 02/12/2008


ATTN...WFO...FFC...TAE...BMX...MOB...JAN...LIX...
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#33 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:29 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:Radar indicated Tornado Warning for parts of LaFourche and Jefferson parishes.



Plaquemines Parish added, but suspected tornado should remain in rural areas.

That cell, if it were too hang together, may move ashore somewhere in the Biloxi area in a couple of hours.


Thread title edited from "~Feb 13th" to "Feb 12th & Feb 13th" as today looks to be a somewhat significant severe weather day Beaumont to the Florida P'handle along Interstate 10
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Re: More severe wx ~ Feb 13th?

#34 Postby wbug1 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:31 pm

That's fast development, tor warnings up and an unbroken line of severe TS warnings from Houston, TX to near Jackson, MS. as of 18:18 UTC.
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#35 Postby Bunkertor » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:07 pm

045
WFUS54 KJAN 121900
TORJAN
MSC103-159-121945-
/O.NEW.KJAN.TO.W.0061.080212T1900Z-080212T1945Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
100 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSON HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WESTERN NOXUBEE COUNTY IN EAST CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTHEASTERN WINSTON COUNTY IN EAST CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 145 PM CST

* AT 100 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
TORNADO NEAR VERNON...OR ABOUT 6 MILES NORTH OF NANIH WAIYA...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
MASHULAVILLE BY 120 PM CST...
MACON BY 140 PM CST...
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#36 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:14 pm

Bunkertor wrote:045
WFUS54 KJAN 121900
TORJAN
MSC103-159-121945-
/O.NEW.KJAN.TO.W.0061.080212T1900Z-080212T1945Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
100 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSON HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WESTERN NOXUBEE COUNTY IN EAST CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTHEASTERN WINSTON COUNTY IN EAST CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 145 PM CST

* AT 100 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
TORNADO NEAR VERNON...OR ABOUT 6 MILES NORTH OF NANIH WAIYA...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
MASHULAVILLE BY 120 PM CST...
MACON BY 140 PM CST...


I think those counties are actually North of the Tornado Watch.

I guess that is why they say "people in and near the watch area"...
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Re: More severe wx Feb 12th & 13th?

#37 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:15 pm

TORNADO WARNING
LAC091-105-121945-
/O.NEW.KLIX.TO.W.0017.080212T1909Z-080212T1945Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
109 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN ST. HELENA PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF GREENSBURG...
NORTHERN TANGIPAHOA PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF AMITE...

* UNTIL 145 PM CST

* AT 106 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 9 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF GREENSBURG...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
MONTPELIER AND GREENSBURG BY 115 PM CST...
ROSELAND AND AMITE BY 125 PM CST...
WILMER BY 140 PM CST...

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Re: More severe wx Feb 12th & 13th?

#38 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:36 pm

Multiple tornado warnings in Southeast Louisiana and Southern Mississippi


http://www.srh.noaa.gov/lix/
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Re: More severe wx Feb 12th & 13th?

#39 Postby wbug1 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:42 pm

Tornado touchdown in open field and golf ball hail in Myrtle Grove , Plaquemines, LA. Intense cells
near Rankin and Lincoln counties, MS. Large hail is associated with tornados.
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#40 Postby Bunkertor » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:52 pm

Do such tiny warning areas refer to spotter reports ?
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