STS Forming?

[Frank2]

I was surprised to see the fast-moving radar echos east of Florida this morning, and, apparently they are part of this low-pressure system northeast of the Bahamas...

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huirloop.html

it almost seems to be separate from the frontal trough as it moves ESE...

[HURAKAN]

Nothing at the surface.

[RL3AO]

Its not tropical. Its not subtropical. The waters are too cold. The air is too cold.

[Frank2]

Thanks - windy enough for a gale warning, however:

http://forecast.weather.gov/shmrn.php?mz=anz088

P.S. I wouldn't say too cold, however - water temps off South Florida are in the upper 70s, so, often a STS has formed elsewhere with similar temps...

[Ed Mahmoud]

I started a thread on this, which I put in USA Weather, titled "Hybrid System of SE Coast" because a couple of models suggested this might become somewhat non-frontal, and a few even suggested a slightly less than cold core, which I have titled (but haven't copywrighted, yet) a "lukewarm core".


I didn't put it into tropical weather because it seemed the odds of TC or sub-TC development were a little too low.

[Category 5]

Not tropical, not subtropical, not going to be tropical, not going to be subtropical.

*sigh* it's going to be a long season.

[JonathanBelles]

*sigh* it's going to be a long season.

I thought the same thing....

[Category 5]

You know what I changed my mind, has anyone seen the latest RaZr run? It's taking this thing fully tropical in 3 days.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

I was surprised to see the fast-moving radar echos east of Florida this morning, and, apparently they are part of this low-pressure system northeast of the Bahamas...

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huirloop.html

it almost seems to be separate from the frontal trough as it moves ESE...

Good Observation, but IMO ssts too cold.
But it is a fascinating cold core low. I'd say it's a pretty good
catch.

[Ed Mahmoud]

Good Observation, but IMO ssts too cold.
But it is a fascinating cold core low. I'd say it's a pretty good
catch.

Maybe it'll become 'lukewarm core'.

[Category 5]

Good Observation, but IMO ssts too cold.
But it is a fascinating cold core low. I'd say it's a pretty good
catch.

Maybe it'll become 'lukewarm core'.

I've never heard that term used. Is it even a term? And what exactly is it?

[tolakram]

I'm going to hazard a guess and say it was a joke.

Let's not have another season where every discussion is criticized, eh?

[Ed Mahmoud]

I invented the term 'lukewarm core'.


I should copywright it, and make a nickel every time someone uses it.

[Ed Mahmoud]

Nothing at the surface.

That picture has changed, and now there sort of is something at the surface, kind of.

[KWT]

Yeah there is a low level circulation present but I'd be surprised if it has any tropical features...still a nice little practice run for the real thing that will be preseent soon enough!

[HURAKAN]

SHIP S 1800 36.10 -71.80 88 41 360 44.1

[Cyclone1]

Impressive!

Tropical? In our dreams, but still, a very, VERY nice low!

[tolakram]

It's drifting into a small area of warmer (but not warm) SST. Will be fun to watch and see if it anything happens before moving over colder waters again.

anything = anything, not tropical development.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Looks very pretty!

[NDG]

This can't get any more extra-tropical than what it is already , long ways from even getting to subtropical status, but interesting that the euro leaves it meandering around for the next 5 days or so, maybe a better chance by then.