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#1 Postby feederband » Sat May 10, 2008 8:30 pm

Had this guy heading towards the house a couple hours ago...

Coral Snake...Highly venomous...

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#2 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat May 10, 2008 8:48 pm

Yikes!!! I havent had any bad snakes. My cat has a friend garter snake in the back yard though.
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#3 Postby andrewsmith1 » Sat May 10, 2008 8:55 pm

What did you end up doing with it?
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#4 Postby feederband » Sat May 10, 2008 9:17 pm

andrewsmith1 wrote:What did you end up doing with it?


Relocated it...I have handeld them before...As well as every other snake in Florida..

On a side note if you dont know what you are doing and find one of these guys in your yard and you have pets or kids take a shovel to it...
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#5 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat May 10, 2008 9:21 pm

feederband wrote:
andrewsmith1 wrote:What did you end up doing with it?


Relocated it...I have handeld them before...As well as every other snake in Florida..

On a side note if you dont know what you are doing and find one of these guys in your yard and you have pets or kids take a shovel to it...


you touched it? Ive heard that Coral Snake venom can seep out through their skin. And I think the shovel bit was common sense (and a comedy act to see one do it).
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#6 Postby andrewsmith1 » Sat May 10, 2008 9:22 pm

Good for you. I try to relocate them as well. I don't have kids but I have 4 dogs. Fortunately the Coral snakes are pretty calm. I can easily get them into a bucket and move them to the lake down the road. The pigmy rattlers are a lot more aggressive and I have had to kill a few of them that decided to strike at me instead of going into the bucket peacefully. I don't like to kill them, but I am not going to risk them biting my pets or my wife and I.
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#7 Postby feederband » Sat May 10, 2008 9:25 pm

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feederband wrote:
andrewsmith1 wrote:What did you end up doing with it?


Relocated it...I have handeld them before...As well as every other snake in Florida..

On a side note if you dont know what you are doing and find one of these guys in your yard and you have pets or kids take a shovel to it...


you touched it? Ive heard that Coral Snake venom can seep out through their skin. And I think the shovel bit was common sense (and a comedy act to see one do it).


They dont have fangs like the vipers do...So the venom is in their slavia and their teeth have to break your skin for the venom will get into the blood stream and attack the nervous system...
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#8 Postby andrewsmith1 » Sat May 10, 2008 9:26 pm

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feederband wrote:
andrewsmith1 wrote:What did you end up doing with it?


Relocated it...I have handeld them before...As well as every other snake in Florida..

On a side note if you dont know what you are doing and find one of these guys in your yard and you have pets or kids take a shovel to it...


you touched it? Ive heard that Coral Snake venom can seep out through their skin. And I think the shovel bit was common sense (and a comedy act to see one do it).


I have never heard that about the venom. I don't like to use a shovel on any snake if I can help it. They have been around here longer than we have and they serve a purpose in the ecosystem. I only kill them when they present a direct threat to my family or pets.
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#9 Postby feederband » Sat May 10, 2008 9:29 pm

andrewsmith1 wrote:Good for you. I try to relocate them as well. I don't have kids but I have 4 dogs. Fortunately the Coral snakes are pretty calm. I can easily get them into a bucket and move them to the lake down the road. The pigmy rattlers are a lot more aggressive and I have had to kill a few of them that decided to strike at me instead of going into the bucket peacefully. I don't like to kill them, but I am not going to risk them biting my pets or my wife and I.


Yes pigmy's are buttheads...I usally just throw a pillow case on top of them and grap the whole snake with the pillow case and then throw both the pillow case and the snake into another pillow case...When I was in the snake trade I usally would just walk right buy them and let them be they are to unpredictable little butts..
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#10 Postby feederband » Sat May 10, 2008 9:33 pm

Another thing about the coral they usally aren't just passing buy...If you see one his den is usally close buy...I use to find alot of them where your under ground water meters are...They love those places...
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#11 Postby cag1953 » Sun May 11, 2008 10:39 am

Hey feederband,maybe you can help me. I've been trying to figure ouy what kind of snake was in front of my garage last weekend.I haven't found any pictures that resemble it at all! It was a cream color(almost like a heavy cream cup of coffee-very light colored) and I didn't see any markings on it at all. It was probably a little less than a foot long and the body was pretty big around for as short as he was. I didn't think to get a picture,I just took my broom and got him to move into the grass and he slithered behind our trash cans! He didn't want to move at first,I had to push him a couple times!
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#12 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun May 11, 2008 10:41 am

I know one thing: the "venom seeping out through their skin" tidbit is an absolutely false myth. However, too many people treat these snakes as "docile", when they're quite agile and can quickly bite portions of the body if a person holds an agitated specimen. They ARE extremely venemous, and it benefits the snake and human when a professional biologist or expert handles and relocates these specimens.
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#13 Postby feederband » Sun May 11, 2008 12:27 pm

cag1953 wrote:Hey feederband,maybe you can help me. I've been trying to figure ouy what kind of snake was in front of my garage last weekend.I haven't found any pictures that resemble it at all! It was a cream color(almost like a heavy cream cup of coffee-very light colored) and I didn't see any markings on it at all. It was probably a little less than a foot long and the body was pretty big around for as short as he was. I didn't think to get a picture,I just took my broom and got him to move into the grass and he slithered behind our trash cans! He didn't want to move at first,I had to push him a couple times!


Cream with no markings...For some reason this one came to mind sometimes a larger one can get their tails chopped off and look real short and stubby..

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/ce/ ... lizard.htm
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#14 Postby feederband » Sun May 11, 2008 12:31 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:I know one thing: the "venom seeping out through their skin" tidbit is an absolutely false myth. However, too many people treat these snakes as "docile", when they're quite agile and can quickly bite portions of the body if a person holds an agitated specimen. They ARE extremely venemous, and it benefits the snake and human when a professional biologist or expert handles and relocates these specimens.


Yes... The shear color sceme of this creature is natures way of saying leave it be...Or it may F your whole world up...
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#15 Postby andrewsmith1 » Sun May 11, 2008 12:40 pm

feederband wrote:
cag1953 wrote:Hey feederband,maybe you can help me. I've been trying to figure ouy what kind of snake was in front of my garage last weekend.I haven't found any pictures that resemble it at all! It was a cream color(almost like a heavy cream cup of coffee-very light colored) and I didn't see any markings on it at all. It was probably a little less than a foot long and the body was pretty big around for as short as he was. I didn't think to get a picture,I just took my broom and got him to move into the grass and he slithered behind our trash cans! He didn't want to move at first,I had to push him a couple times!


Cream with no markings...For some reason this one came mind sometimes a larger one can get their tails chopped off and look real short and stubby..

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/ce/ ... lizard.htm


I saw one of those in my yard a couple of days ago. I had to protect it from the dogs while it found shelter.
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#16 Postby cag1953 » Sun May 11, 2008 1:29 pm

Thanks! Even though it looked nothing like the picture,some things were similar. It said they have trouble moving on roads and this one was on the driveway.It took a few pokes with the broom before he even moved. Also when he did start moving,it moved like a sidewinder! It struggled to get off the driveway,but once in the grass it moved pretty fast.
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#17 Postby feederband » Sun May 11, 2008 1:40 pm

cag1953 wrote:Thanks! Even though it looked nothing like the picture,some things were similar. It said they have trouble moving on roads and this one was on the driveway.It took a few pokes with the broom before he even moved. Also when he did start moving,it moved like a sidewinder! It struggled to get off the driveway,but once in the grass it moved pretty fast.


Ive seen them lighter and darker...Was it as thick or thicker than the picture?...Not to many option with no markings...
Could of being a none native species I have run into many of those latley...Most snakes will have some problems with smooth surfaces like roads...No markings at all? No stripies ? No nothing ? Like a blind snake?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Blind_Snake
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#18 Postby feederband » Sun May 11, 2008 1:46 pm

Maybe a earth snake...Only find in North Florida but could of got down here...Some just call them Brown Racers

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#19 Postby CajunMama » Sun May 11, 2008 4:44 pm

Cag, maybe one of these?

Eastern Coachwhip (non venomous)...but i think yours might have been too small unless it was a baby
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Florida Brown Snake (non venomous)
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I found this website for you that shows all the snakes in florida http://www.floridabackyardsnakes.com/
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#20 Postby feederband » Sun May 11, 2008 6:02 pm

CajunMama wrote:Cag, maybe one of these?

Eastern Coachwhip (non venomous)...but i think yours might have been too small unless it was a baby
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Florida Brown Snake (non venomous)
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I found this website for you that shows all the snakes in florida http://www.floridabackyardsnakes.com/


Coachwhips are really cool I have found them up to 6 feet long and they are usally found in large groups.....Just like alot of snakes though they are getting harder to find with all the habitat be taking away from them..
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