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Re: Arthur dissipates over Mexico/Guatemala border

#581 Postby MGC » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:00 pm

Arthur's remnant low does look to be making a mad dash for the BOC. If it does I bet it refires as 91E moves inland soon....MGC
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Re: Arthur dissipates over Mexico/Guatemala border

#582 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:04 pm

There is a lot of dry air near Arthurs remnant circulation. Could see a naked swirl get back out over the BOC but I doubt it gets upgraded.
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#583 Postby KWT » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:05 pm

It does still have a pretty good circulation, IF it can get back into the BoC then we will have a real interesting set-up occuring, I bet its being watched closely by the NHC.

All depends on what 91E does over the next 24hrs IMO.
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Re: Arthur dissipates over Mexico/Guatemala border

#584 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:09 pm

Nimbus wrote:There is a lot of dry air near Arthurs remnant circulation. Could see a naked swirl get back out over the BOC but I doubt it gets upgraded.


I agree. There's also some stronger northerly shear now in the BOC, that's not from 91E.
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#585 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:25 pm

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If the shear map is correct, the shear isn't bad at all.
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#586 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:27 pm

There doesn't appear to be a remnant circulation anymore (it would still be inland), and the BOC is bone dry; chances of regeneration are slim to none.

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#587 Postby KWT » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:38 pm

Vis. imagery loops show there certainly is a circulation stormspinnerD2:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/sloop-vis.html
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#588 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:42 pm

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Arthur is still there and closer to the BOC than ever.
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#589 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:47 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image


If the shear map is correct, the shear isn't bad at all.


20kt shear combined with dry air is not favorable at all. And it looks to be getting worse on water vapor imagery.
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#590 Postby Stratosphere747 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:49 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
Arthur is still there and closer to the BOC than ever.


Only problem is that isn't Arthur.
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#591 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:01 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
Arthur is still there and closer to the BOC than ever.


Only problem is that isn't Arthur.


Bingo. Final advisory issued yesterday. :wink:
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#592 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:04 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
Arthur is still there and closer to the BOC than ever.


Only problem is that isn't Arthur.


They used to call it Arthur, I still call it Arthur. It hasn't dissipated (the LLC). :wink:
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Re: Arthur dissipates over Mexico/Guatemala border

#593 Postby vaffie » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:06 pm

Nimbus wrote:There is a lot of dry air near Arthurs remnant circulation. Could see a naked swirl get back out over the BOC but I doubt it gets upgraded.


Agreed, the amount of dry air is quite impressive, but it's moving out quickly--as you can see from a 14 hour Water Vapor loop, pay close attention to the BOC. The humid air is moving in quickly from the east. By tomorrow night, it might even be approaching Gulf of Honduras moisture levels. Shear is dropping in the area too--as can be seen by increasing amounts of convection nearer the center of the spinning blob. If so, and if this little blob can make it into the Bay, we could start to see development in the Bay of Campeche, something which has been predicted by every global model for the last two or three weeks. The situation might be about to get interesting. Also interesting to note weather conditions in Ciudad del Carmen and Villahermosa. They indicate an East wind at CdC and a NNW wind at Villahermosa. Both are reporting 1006 mb. I would estimate that the center of the low is about halfway between the cities and about 30 miles from the coast.
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#594 Postby Stratosphere747 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:14 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
Stratosphere747 wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
Arthur is still there and closer to the BOC than ever.


Only problem is that isn't Arthur.


They used to call it Arthur, I still call it Arthur. It hasn't dissipated (the LLC). :wink:


"Remnants of" and we can call it even... 8-)
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#595 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:42 pm

its not completely over yet lol,... still a few days of watching it lol maybe tonight it will get over enough water to have another hurray!!

the kind fo amazing part is that there is still some convergence around the center..
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#596 Postby KWT » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:59 pm

No doubt the fact that the circulation was rather broad in the first place has allowed the system to continue to keep circulating, also the fact we do still have plenty of thunderstorms popping up in the region has also no doubt helped keep the circulation going.
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#597 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:22 pm

The LLC has reformed at 18.6 north/91.9 west and is moving west-northwestward. It appears to be well defined and some of the obs make it appear that it maybe near the surface and closed. I expect Bret or Jose 2005 like system out of this. As for the other system over the Eastern Pacific it looks very good and should be a depression by 5am.
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Re: Arthur dissipates over Mexico/Guatemala border

#598 Postby drezee » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:48 pm

drezee 12:02pm wrote:Arthur is dead....but whatever of a center it has left has turned NW and is at 18.1 and 91.8.

Last official position was LOCATED NEAR 17.4N 91.3W AT 02/0300Z


I guess I was onto something...I will say it since I have no shame...uhhhhmm (clearing my throat)...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE HAVE A REMERGING TROPICAL SYSTEM ON OUR HANDS!!!!
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#599 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:50 pm

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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT MON JUN 2 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. THE REMNANTS OF ARTHUR CONTINUE TO PRODUCE WIDESPREAD CLOUDINESS AND
LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINS OVER PORTIONS OF BELIZE...GUATEMALA...AND
SOUTHEASTERN MEXICO. REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS NOT
EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES SLOWLY
WESTWARD...BUT ASSOCIATED HEAVY RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING
FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES...ESPECIALLY IN MOUNTAINOUS
TERRAIN.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER KNABB/BLAKE
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Re: Arthur dissipates over Mexico/Guatemala border

#600 Postby tailgater » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:53 pm

IT'S ALIVE Upper air environment is getting better but it has a long way to go to be favorable. just a few shear base T-storms near the center. I don't know if it will have enough low pressure left to kick off anything on it's own. Should be something to watch for the next couple of days.
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