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June 8th severe weather thread *southern plains to the midwe

#1 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:58 pm

Guys tomorrow could be the beginning of another round of severe weather. Right now there's a low developing over SE colorado with a pronounced shortwave extending down to the south and west.

Right now there is a strong slight issued for tomorrow...


DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1229 PM CDT SAT JUN 07 2008

VALID 081200Z - 091200Z

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE MIDWEST/WESTERN GREAT
LAKES INTO THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAINS...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS NORTHERN NY INTO VT...

...UPPER MIDWEST/WESTERN GREAT LAKES INTO THE SOUTH CENTRAL
PLAINS...
LEADING SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS FORECAST TO CROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST IN
ADVANCE OF PRIMARY UPPER LOW SLOWLY SHIFTING EASTWARD FROM EASTERN
MT INTO ND. IT APPEARS LIKELY THAT AT LEAST A LOOSELY ORGANIZED
STRONG/SEVERE MCS WILL BE ONGOING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD
SUNDAY MORNING ACROSS SOUTHERN MN/NORTHERN IA INTO WI/PERHAPS FAR
NORTHERN IL. AIDED BY SUFFICIENT LARGE SCALE FORCING FOR
ASCENT/GRADUAL HEIGHT FALLS...AND A MOIST/UNSTABLE DOWNSTREAM
AIRMASS...A SEVERE THREAT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE EASTWARD AND
DIURNALLY EXPAND/INTENSIFY ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF WI/NORTHERN IL
INTO LOWER MI DURING THE DAY. ALTHOUGH INHERENT QUESTIONS EXIST
REGARDING THE EARLY DAY ORGANIZATION OF A POTENTIAL MCS...THE
POSSIBILITY OF FORWARD PROPAGATION AND AN AFTERNOON UPSWING IN
INTENSITY WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN A DISTINCT THREAT FOR DAMAGING
WINDS...IN ADDITION TO SEVERE HAIL AND PERHAPS A TORNADO.

OTHER STRONG/SEVERE TSTMS WILL LIKELY DEVELOP DURING THE AFTERNOON
AMIDST A MOIST AND MODERATE-STRONGLY UNSTABLE AIRMASS ALONG/AHEAD OF
THE EAST-SOUTHEAST ADVANCING COLD FRONT FROM EASTERN/SOUTHERN IA AND
NORTHWEST IL INTO WESTERN MO AND EASTERN/SOUTHERN KS...AND
EVENTUALLY NORTHERN/WESTERN OK AND PERHAPS THE TX PANHANDLE BY EARLY
EVENING. OTHER TSTMS WILL LIKELY DEVELOP ACROSS SOUTHEAST CO AMIDST
A HIGHLY SHEARED POST-FRONTAL EASTERLY UPSLOPE REGIME. LARGE HAIL
WILL LIKELY BE THE PRIMARY RISK IN THESE AREAS...WITH DAMAGING WINDS
AND A TORNADO OR TWO POSSIBLE AS WELL.

...NORTHERN PORTIONS OF NY INTO NEW ENGLAND...
HAVE INTRODUCED A SLIGHT RISK ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTHERN NY INTO
VT. SHORT TERM MODEL VARIABILITY STILL EXISTS REGARDING THE
TIMING/LOCATION OF LOW AMPLITUDE/SUBTLE MID LEVEL IMPULSES
ALONG/NORTH OF THE CANADIAN BORDER ON SUNDAY...BUT CONFIDENCE HAS
INCREASED WITH THE EXPECTED DEVELOPMENT OF SCATTERED STRONG/SEVERE
TSTMS WITHIN A MODERATELY UNSTABLE AIRMASS /ESPECIALLY REFLECTED BY
THE LATEST GFS AND NAM-KF CONTROL GUIDANCE/. AMPLE HEATING/STEEP LOW
LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND INCREASINGLY STRONG/LARGELY UNIDIRECTIONAL
LOW-MID LEVEL TROPOSPHERIC FLOW WILL FAVOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SMALL
BOWING SEGMENTS WITH WIND DAMAGE POTENTIAL INTO THE EVENING.

...EASTERN DAKOTAS/NORTHWEST MN...
CYCLONE ASSOCIATED MID LEVEL DRY SLOT IS EXPECTED TO NOSE
NORTHEASTWARD FROM NEB INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST ON SUNDAY. IN CLOSE
ASSOCIATION WITH THE UPPER LOW...A POCKET OF RELATIVELY COOL MID
LEVEL TEMPERATURES /-15 TO -23 DEG C/ WILL OVERSPREAD THE DAKOTAS
INTO NORTHWEST MN. IN SPITE OF LIMITED BOUNDARY MOISTURE /40S F TO
LOWER 50S F DEWPOINTS/...POCKETS OF HEATING ON THE FRINGE OF THE DRY
SLOT WILL RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF STEEP LOW-MID LEVEL
RATES...WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF 500-750 J/KG MUCAPE. BY EARLY
AFTERNOON...LOW-TOPPED STORMS WILL BE CAPABLE OF SEVERE HAIL AND
SOME GUSTY WINDS. A ROGUE TORNADO CANNOT BE RULED OUT IN VICINITY OF
THE DAKOTAS SURFACE LOW/ASSOCIATED FRONTAL OCCLUSION PROVIDED
SUFFICIENT INSOLATION /LOW LEVEL CAPE/...IN AN OTHERWISE FAVORABLE
AMBIENT VORTICITY ENVIRONMENT.

...WESTERN/CENTRAL FL...
PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY INCREASE TO NEAR
2 INCHES ON SUNDAY ACROSS CENTRAL/SOUTHERN FL. SHORT TERM MODELS
INDICATE THAT A COOLER MID LEVEL /500 MB/ POCKET OF -8 TO -10 DEG C
WILL ROTATE WESTWARD ON THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF A DEEP LAYERED
ANTICYCLONE CENTERED OVER THE CAROLINAS. DEEP EASTERLY FLOW WILL
FAVOR THE EAST COAST SEABREEZE TO REACH CNTRL FL BY EARLY
AFTN...EVENTUALLY COLLIDING WITH THE WEST COAST SEABREEZE BY
MID/LATE AFTN. STEEPENING OF THE MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL FAVOR
STRONG/SOME SEVERE PULSE-TYPE STORMS CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WIND GUSTS
AND HAIL.



There are a couple of 30% areas which include the southern plains, southern kansas and northern oklahoma as well as a portion of the Texas panhandle. This same portion extends into far western missouri. There's another section that runs from eastern iowa to northern IL and southern wisconsin. Similar areas affected today by severe weather.
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#2 Postby HarlequinBoy » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:06 am

Small 10% tornado area in NW Ok and NE Tx Pahandle.
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#3 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:13 am

Yeah we'll see what the 8am update holds I'm not a big fan of this guys forcasts.
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#4 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:09 am

New update, doesn't look like theres going to be a whole lot today.
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Re: June 8th severe weather thread *southern plains to the midwe

#5 Postby Melissa » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:35 am

The same cloud formations I saw last Thursday and Friday are racing across the sky. What kind of clouds are these?

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Re: June 8th severe weather thread *southern plains to the midwe

#6 Postby Siberian Express » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:25 am

Melissa wrote:The same cloud formations I saw last Thursday and Friday are racing across the sky. What kind of clouds are these?

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Could be a gravity wave.
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#7 Postby KWT » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:59 am

Not sure a great deal will happen but still worth watching for, got a severe thunderstorm warning out but nothing else yet...

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL
1156 AM CDT SUN JUN 8 2008

ILC011-073-155-081706-
/O.EXP.KDVN.SV.W.0093.000000T0000Z-080608T1700Z/
PUTNAM IL-HENRY IL-BUREAU IL-
1156 AM CDT SUN JUN 8 2008

...THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR BUREAU...SOUTHEASTERN HENRY
AND NORTHWESTERN PUTNAM COUNTIES EXPIRES AT NOON CDT...

THE THUNDERSTORMS THAT WERE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING SEVERE WEATHER HAVE
WEAKENED. THEREFORE THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING HAS BEEN ALLOWED
TO EXPIRE.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 300 PM CDT SUNDAY
AFTERNOON FOR EAST CENTRAL IOWA AND NORTHWESTERN ILLINOIS.

LAT...LON 4132 8918 4125 8933 4115 8946 4114 8963
4123 8966 4123 8986 4117 8987 4115 8990
4118 9006 4132 8986 4157 8968 4159 8964
4159 8917
TIME...MOT...LOC 1656Z 286DEG 36KT 4175 8896 4131 8935
4114 8975

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#8 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:07 pm

The atmosphere is beginning to destabalize quickly here in Oklahoma. Cape values are 3000+ across a wide portion of the state with LI's ranging from -5 to -8.
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#9 Postby PurdueWx80 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:25 pm

i do think a substantial tornado threat will develop across northern missouri, much of iowa and into far southern wisconsin and northern illinois late this afternoon and into the evening. winds have backed to the southeast north of the outflow boundary/effective warm front draped across southern iowa - this is setting up an area of tremendous helicity right along the warm front, with very unstable air just south. speed and directional shear are quite good, and i'd expect areas to the north and east to destabilize late in the afternoon as the warm front shifts northwards and low to mid-70s dewpoints pool along and south of the front. supercells should rapidly develop over the next couple of hours in southwest iowa, then spread northeast into the same areas that saw yesterday's outbreak. another MCS will eventually develop and head into michigan and indiana tonight.

dunno if anyone has started a thread yet, but wed-thurs could both have major tornado outbreaks in the plains and midwest once again - much like the thurs-fri outbreak of last week.
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#10 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:27 pm

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It looks like someone is about to be slammed. Half the state of MI is under a severe thunderstorm watch. It should reach southern Ontario by this evening or close to midnight.
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#11 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:35 pm

Now two tornado warnings for central Michigan and a large swath of severe thunderstorm warnings in the line's path.

EDIT: Make that three:

TORNADO WARNING
MIC133-081900-
/O.NEW.KGRR.TO.W.0010.080608T1834Z-080608T1900Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
234 PM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GRAND RAPIDS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHEASTERN OSCEOLA COUNTY IN CENTRAL MICHIGAN

* UNTIL 300 PM EDT

* AT 232 PM EDT...DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS
LOCATED 3 MILES NORTH OF MARION...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 46 MPH.

IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO THREAT...PENNY SIZED HAIL AND DAMAGING
WINDS OVER 60 MPH CAN ALSO BE EXPECTED IN THE FOLLOWING
LOCATIONS...

PARK LAKE... MARION...


IF YOU ARE IN THE PATH OF THIS TORNADO...MOVE INDOORS AND TO THE
LOWEST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING. STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

LAT...LON 4418 8528 4418 8518 4418 8517 4418 8511
4418 8510 4411 8510 4403 8517 4417 8529
TIME...MOT...LOC 1834Z 237DEG 40KT 4416 8512

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#12 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:36 pm

well its time to fire up the GRanalyst...things are beginning to pop a bit
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#13 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:18 pm

Tornado watches and warnings are popping up rapidly in southern Ontario!!

STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY
3:13 PM EDT SUNDAY 8 JUNE 2008
TORNADO WARNING FOR
STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY UPGRADED FROM SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions. Watch for updated statements.
Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details and continue to monitor the situation through your local radio and television stations or Weatheradio.

STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY
3:13 PM EDT SUNDAY 8 JUNE 2008
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR
STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY UPGRADED TO TORNADO WARNING
Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions.Watch for updated statements.
Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details and continue to monitor the situation through your local radio and television stations or Weatheradio.


Watches
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
3:09 PM EDT Sunday 8 June 2008
Tornado watch for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued

Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions. Watch for updated statements.
Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details and continue to monitor the situation through your local radio and television stations or Weatheradio.

The tornado warned cell is moving something like 60 mph I heard.
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Re: June 8th severe weather thread *southern plains to the midwe

#14 Postby HarlequinBoy » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:24 pm

PurdueWx80 wrote:i do think a substantial tornado threat will develop across northern missouri, much of iowa and into far southern wisconsin and northern illinois late this afternoon and into the evening. winds have backed to the southeast north of the outflow boundary/effective warm front draped across southern iowa - this is setting up an area of tremendous helicity right along the warm front, with very unstable air just south. speed and directional shear are quite good, and i'd expect areas to the north and east to destabilize late in the afternoon as the warm front shifts northwards and low to mid-70s dewpoints pool along and south of the front. supercells should rapidly develop over the next couple of hours in southwest iowa, then spread northeast into the same areas that saw yesterday's outbreak. another MCS will eventually develop and head into michigan and indiana tonight.

dunno if anyone has started a thread yet, but wed-thurs could both have major tornado outbreaks in the plains and midwest once again - much like the thurs-fri outbreak of last week.


But Thursday and Friday didn't really turn into major tornado outbreaks.
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#15 Postby PurdueWx80 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:27 pm

HarlequinBoy wrote:
But Thursday and Friday didn't really turn into major tornado outbreaks.


they were substantial outbreaks by most regards. i guess major may be pushing it a bit, especially compared to what we've seen this year.
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#16 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:31 pm

MD for oklahoma/tx/ks
MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1281
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0203 PM CDT SUN JUN 08 2008

AREAS AFFECTED...SRN KS...NWRN OK...ERN TX PANHANDLE

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

VALID 081903Z - 082100Z

SEVERE STORMS WITH A HAIL AND WIND THREAT ARE EXPECTED TO FORM LATER
THIS AFTERNOON AND A WW WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED.

VISIBLE IMAGERY SHOWED DEEPENING CU ALONG A COLD FRONT...FROM NEAR
HUT SWWD INTO NWRN OK AND THE ERN TX PANHANDLE. A MODERATELY
UNSTABLE AIR MASS HAS DEVELOPED WITH 2000 J/KG MLCAPE JUST AHEAD OF
THE BOUNDARY. DEWPOINTS HAVE MIXED INTO THE LOW TO MID 60S ACROSS
THE ERN TX PANHANDLES AND SWRN OK...BUT REMAIN UPPER 60S TO NEAR 70
FARTHER N AND E.

VEERING LOW TO MID LEVEL FLOW ALONG WITH STRONG INSTABILITY WILL
LIKELY RESULT IN A FEW SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF LARGE HAIL INITIALLY.
VEERING LOW TO MID LEVEL FLOW WITH 0-1KM SRH VALUES NEAR 100 M2/S2
ACROSS NRN OK/SRN KS SUGGEST AN ISOLATED/BRIEF TORNADO CANNOT BE
RULED OUT INITIALLY WHILE ACTIVITY REMAINS CELLULAR. THE LARGER T/TD
SPREADS OVER WRN PORTIONS OF THE MD AREA SUGGEST MORE EXTENSIVE
OUTFLOW POOLS MAY BE PRODUCED WITH LITTLE OR NO TORNADO THREAT.

WITHIN A COUPLE HOURS AFTER INITIATION...STORMS SHOULD MERGE INTO A
LARGE SCALE MCS...PROPAGATING ENEWD ALONG THE BOUNDARY WITH MAINLY A
DAMAGING WIND THREAT ALONG WITH VERY HEAVY RAIN.
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#17 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:32 pm

Cyclenall wrote:Tornado watches and warnings are popping up rapidly in southern Ontario!!

STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY
3:13 PM EDT SUNDAY 8 JUNE 2008
TORNADO WARNING FOR
STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY UPGRADED FROM SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions. Watch for updated statements.
Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details and continue to monitor the situation through your local radio and television stations or Weatheradio.

STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY
3:13 PM EDT SUNDAY 8 JUNE 2008
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR
STRATHROY - KOMOKA - WESTERN MIDDLESEX COUNTY UPGRADED TO TORNADO WARNING
Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions.Watch for updated statements.
Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details and continue to monitor the situation through your local radio and television stations or Weatheradio.


Watches
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
3:09 PM EDT Sunday 8 June 2008
Tornado watch for
London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County continued

Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions. Watch for updated statements.
Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details and continue to monitor the situation through your local radio and television stations or Weatheradio.

The tornado warned cell is moving something like 60 mph I heard.


It's moving about 40 mph eastward. Going right into London (population 350,000) now.
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#18 Postby KWT » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:35 pm

TORNADO WARNING
MIC017-081945-
/O.NEW.KDTX.TO.W.0005.080608T1922Z-080608T1945Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
322 PM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DETROIT/PONTIAC HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHWESTERN BAY COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN

* UNTIL 345 PM EDT

* AT 320 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR
BENTLY...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 32 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL OTHERWISE REMAIN OVER MAINLY RURAL AREAS OF THE
INDICATED COUNTY.

WHEN A TORNADO WARNING IS ISSUED BASED ON DOPPLER RADAR...IT MEANS
THAT STRONG ROTATION HAS BEEN DETECTED IN THE STORM. A TORNADO MAY
ALREADY BE ON THE GROUND...OR IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP SHORTLY.

IF YOU ARE IN THE PATH OF A TORNADO...THE SAFEST PLACE IN A HOME OR
BUSINESS IS AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR POSSIBLE. AVOID
WINDOWS.

LAT...LON 4385 8417 4400 8417 4401 8416 4401 8405
4400 8403 4393 8404 4392 8403 4391 8403
TIME...MOT...LOC 1922Z 246DEG 28KT 4391 8413

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#19 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:38 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It's moving about 40 mph eastward. Going right into London (population 350,000) now.

Looks south of London right now. This cell popped up really quickly. Those warning texts I got didn't have any detail in them, do you know why that is? They just have the standard, generic wording.
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Re: June 8th severe weather thread *southern plains to the midwe

#20 Postby HarlequinBoy » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:39 pm

PurdueWx80 wrote:
HarlequinBoy wrote:
But Thursday and Friday didn't really turn into major tornado outbreaks.


they were substantial outbreaks by most regards. i guess major may be pushing it a bit, especially compared to what we've seen this year.


Yeah, especially wind-wise. I haven't really looked up the ratings either so... Btw, I wasn't trying to discredit what you're saying about next week.
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