The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

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The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#1 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:41 pm

I think the Jim Lushine dry SFL theory is on the clock. I emailed and asked Robert Molleda from the NWS about this theory and here are some answers he provided to me:
(1) Jim Lushine used rainfall data from Miami International Airport for his study. (2) Jim Lushine told him that rain amounts favorable for SFL hurricanes were either one or two standard deviations below average, or something around 1” for the month of May. (3) Robert said there have been correlation studies and these studies couldn’t come up with a strong correlation between dry Mays and SFL rainfall. Thus, they discounted this theory until they can do a more thorough analysis area wide. (4) Robert said the SFL rainy season officially began May 22, 2008.


The Miami International Airport rainfall total for May 2008 was 1.58”, the average is @5.3”. I don't think any conclusions can be made on this theory if a hurricane does or does not impact SFL during 2008, but for me it will be interesting to follow the 2008 Hurricane Season and see how this theory plays out.

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#2 Postby KWT » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:50 pm

Yep I think we may finally be able to test this theory. To be honest I'm rather hoping the theory is wrong but we will see!
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#3 Postby Frank2 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:01 pm

I still think the dryness has more to do with global climate changes now seen in many areas of the world, rather than an indicator of an upcoming "favorable" weather pattern during the hurricane season...

With all due respect to Jim...
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#4 Postby Sanibel » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:31 pm

Good clouds over the mainland every afternoon but bright and dry right now. No gushers have made it out here yet besides a few ten minute showers.

Remember not every dry May brings a hurricane.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#6 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:15 pm



I thought we should start a clean topic now that May is over and we have the May rainfall stats and insight from the NWS.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#7 Postby boca » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:50 pm

Lets face it the dry May is going to be including June.

EXTENDED FORECAST...
THE HIGH WILL THEN WEAKEN LATE THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK
WHILE MOVING SLOWLY TO THE EAST. AT THE SAME TIME A MID TO UPPER
LEVEL LOW OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC WATERS WILL MOVE WEST THIS
WEEKEND...AND SHOULD BE NEAR SOUTH FLORIDA EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE
LONG RANGE MODELS SHOW THIS LOW TO MOVE NORTH AND NORTHEAST DURING
THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK...AS AN MID TO UPPER LEVEL THROUGH
DEVELOPS OVER THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES. THIS PATTERN WOULD KEEP
SOUTH FLORIDA DRY DURING EARLY TO MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER...THIS
IS THE FIRST RUN SHOWING THIS PATTERN. SO PLAN ON KEEPING THE SLIGHT
CHANCE TO CHANCE CAT OVER THE CWA...BUT SHIFTING THE HIGHEST POPS
TO EARLY NEXT WEEK DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE MID TO UPPER LEVEL
LOW.

June is our second wettest month of the year next to Sept.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#8 Postby Decomdoug » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:31 am

I noticed this article in reference to a link between a dry May and the reduced lovebug population

"Most local bug experts attribute the low lovebug count to a drier-than-normal May. The South Florida Water Management District reports that, after three consecutive months of above-average rainfall, the area received below-average rainfall in May. District-wide rainfall veraged 1.84 inches in May, about 2.35 inches below the historical average for the month."


http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/jun/06/ ... ps-a-beat/

I hope the "offical start of the rainy season" works it's way up here to St. Lucie county soon. Dry as popcorn up here right now.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#9 Postby jinftl » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:55 am

Are there any studies that have looked at the possible correlation between drier than normal Junes and hurricanes in South Florida?
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#10 Postby Patrick99 » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:42 pm

Yeah, we are having a dry June too. And I don't see much end to it......that upper level low is far from a given, if it stays east of us, we get even drier.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#11 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:18 pm

We are on an east-wind pattern with no break in sight. It's due to a strong Bermuda High off the East Coast of the U.S which is parked for the time being. This pattern would favor U.S landfall strikes if there were any hurricanes in the Western subtropical Atlantic. Obviously things can change alot from now until the season really cranks up in August regarding Bermuda High positioning. Better to have a strong one now, then during the peak in my opinion.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#12 Postby Sanibel » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:51 pm

Ah, finally thunderheads flashing at night over the Gulf to the south. And passing showers. I missed you rainy season.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#13 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:49 am

Sun Sentinel article on Bermuda High and Lushine theory:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weathe ... 5654.story
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#14 Postby DanKellFla » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:59 pm

More data for Mr. Lushine!!!!! Hopefully, he is wrong.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#15 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:56 am

we shall see (snippet from article below):

"Because 1.71 inches of rain fell in Miami last month, almost 4 inches below normal, Lushine said, "It would not surprise me if we had something to worry about in August or September."
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#16 Postby jinftl » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:51 pm

So far, the rainfall deficits are only growing from what we saw in May....and June is typically the wettest month in South Florida.

Rainfall observed through June 10,

Miami - 0.97" month to date (Avg Rainfall for entire month = 8.54")

Fort Lauderdale - 0.25" month to date (Avg Rainfall for entire month = 9.89")

West Palm Beach - 0.15" month to date (Avg Rainfall for entire month = 7.58")
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#17 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:59 am

Strong seabreeze front conditions south west and central Florida. We had a good rainy season downpour yesterday and expected again today according to NOAA. Lawn grass greening.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#18 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:30 am

As someone who's considered Jim an old workplace friend, I hope he doesn't mind if I say that hopefully he'll be proven wrong this time (or at least off by a few hundred miles to the east)...
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#19 Postby Nimbus » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:21 pm

And coming into July we have a strong central atlantic ridge and an active wave train coming off Africa. Sure hope the pattern changes before August.
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Re: The Lushine Dry SFL May Theory Will Be Tested During 2008

#20 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:10 pm

Glad someone else is seeing that.
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