Tropical Storm Bertha Model Runs

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#301 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:40 am

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#302 Postby crownweather » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:43 am

One thing that came to mind is the GFS model forecast progs of I believe either Hurricane Dean or Felix of last year. If I remember right, the GFS model progged the hurricane as a open wave, but in reality it was a Cat 5 hurricane. So, I don't put much faith in the "intensity" forecast of the global models, just the idea that it may be in that vicinity.
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#303 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:44 am

crownweather wrote:One thing that came to mind is the GFS model forecast progs of I believe either Hurricane Dean or Felix of last year. If I remember right, the GFS model progged the hurricane as a open wave, but in reality it was a Cat 5 hurricane. So, I don't put much faith in the "intensity" forecast of the global models, just the idea that it may be in that vicinity.

Agreed 100 percent in regards to the intensity forecasts.
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#304 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:44 am

so what happened to the SFWMD model page it wont update anyone else having that problem? i cant make the animations without it unless someone else knows of a good site with some spaghetti models that updates quick and is clear
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#305 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:45 am

MiamiensisWx wrote:
crownweather wrote:One thing that came to mind is the GFS model forecast progs of I believe either Hurricane Dean or Felix of last year. If I remember right, the GFS model progged the hurricane as a open wave, but in reality it was a Cat 5 hurricane. So, I don't put much faith in the "intensity" forecast of the global models, just the idea that it may be in that vicinity.

Agreed 100 percent in regards to the intensity forecasts.


very much agree.. that is actually the case 90 percent of the time...
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#307 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:54 am

Aric Dunn wrote:so what happened to the SFWMD model page it wont update anyone else having that problem? i cant make the animations without it unless someone else knows of a good site with some spaghetti models that updates quick and is clear


SO???? anyone else
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha Model Runs

#308 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:56 am

Absolutely no clue Aric...thats what I hate about the SFWMD page....
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#309 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:58 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:so what happened to the SFWMD model page it wont update anyone else having that problem? i cant make the animations without it unless someone else knows of a good site with some spaghetti models that updates quick and is clear


SO???? anyone else
I've noticed the problem too and it is bothering me as well. I don't know what's going on.
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#310 Postby Blown Away » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:58 am

MiamiensisWx wrote:Bertha goes to Florida:
l]http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/images/gfs_ten_204l.gif[/url]
rl]http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/images/gfs_ten_252l.gif[/url]


Title is a bit misleading, hour 204 is about 300 miles E of SFL and hour 252 is near NY.
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#311 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:00 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Absolutely no clue Aric...thats what I hate about the SFWMD page....


yeah but there spaghetti models are better


this moves to much i like the others cause it was zoomed out more and the lines were thinner .. oh well maybe it will work later


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#312 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:02 pm

interesting though on that last loop there the DEEP BAM which was consistently showing re curve has straightened out and moved even more west than some of the others.. which tells me even if the bertha was deeper it may not get picked up right away
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#313 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:03 pm

Blown_away wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:Bertha goes to Florida:
l]http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/images/gfs_ten_204l.gif[/url]
rl]http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/images/gfs_ten_252l.gif[/url]


Title is a bit misleading, hour 204 is about 300 miles E of SFL and hour 252 is near NY.
Actually what you are seeing near NY is not Bertha. If you look at the GFS run closely, you can see that the weakening Bertha slowly drifts around the vicinity of the bahamas between hour 204 and hour 252..

hr. 204 - http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_204l.gif
hr. 216 - http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_216l.gif
hr. 228 - http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_228l.gif
hr. 240 - http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_240l.gif
hr. 252 - http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_252l.gif
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha Model Runs

#314 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:Absolutely no clue Aric...thats what I hate about the SFWMD page....


yeah but there spaghetti models are better


this moves to much i like the others cause it was zoomed out more and the lines were thinner .. oh well maybe it will work later


Image


Oh, I agree. I love their skinny lined spaghetti plots too but they never update the dang thing. I use the page you just uploaded more than any other page.
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#315 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:07 pm

yeah see the other used to always update than they put it into that new format so now it weird.. but yesterday it was working fine ....
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#316 Postby Stratosphere747 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:12 pm

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#317 Postby tailgater » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:12 pm

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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha Model Runs

#318 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:15 pm

tailgater wrote:Do these help any
http://www.crownweather.com/al02model.gif


they could if it updates consistently
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha Model Runs

#319 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:17 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:Image


where did you find that image.. i know its from FSU but what is the parent link..
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#320 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:17 pm

nevermind found it..
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