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Yeah but the center is actually a little to the north of the forecast point, you can clearly see that its tracking just a little to the north of the forecast point, not by much and the convection is indeed displaced but not by a huge amount, at least for the new burst that went up recently, SW side of the LLC probably is exposed though now.
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KWT wrote:Yeah but the center is actually a little to the north of the forecast point, you can clearly see that its tracking just a little to the north of the forecast point, not by much and the convection is indeed displaced but not by a huge amount, at least for the new burst that went up recently, SW side of the LLC probably is exposed though now.
its to hard to say exactly if its north or just south or right in line with it .. using the over lay from the ssd site.. im just saying its exposd except for sirus clouds. that burst as you can see from the images is a good distance from the center.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
Winds mantained at 45kts.
AL, 02, 2008070500, , BEST, 0, 158N, 326W, 45, 1000, TS, 34, NEQ, 90, 30, 0, 75, 1012, 180, 30, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, BERTHA, D,
AL, 02, 2008070500, , BEST, 0, 158N, 326W, 45, 1000, TS, 34, NEQ, 90, 30, 0, 75, 1012, 180, 30, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, BERTHA, D,
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
18 Hours is about all this storm needs to find more favorable conditions. Tomorrow will be critical in it's survival.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
Another convection burst. The center is displaced by SW shear (TUTT shear?). This is feeding the SAL layer into its SW quadrant at a time when it is coming into slightly cooler waters. Climatology is catching up with it. This will be a study in early July systems and how they track across the Atlantic.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
The following post is NOT an official prognosis.
In my view, this TC is nearly done.
It is very likely that Bertha will dissipate well before it reaches 55-60 W. The latest satellite data and my personal analysis of the surrounding environment likely foreshadows Bertha's final fate. The system is encountering a stable boundary layer and SAL, which is indicated by the surrounding stratocumulus as mentioned. Shear is strong, and it will only continue to increase as Bertha moves closer to the proximity of the upper low in the central North Atlantic. Consequently, convection is displaced to the NE of the exposed LLC. Bertha's survival probabilities are also greatly reduced by the fact that it is a weak TC. In fact, it has been consistently hedging the lower end of the NHC's intensity forecasts. Climatology for similar July Cape Verde tropical cyclones that formed closest to Bertha's initial latitude/longitude also argues for dissipating over water. The westward trend of the models is a reflection of the fact that they're "catching on" to Bertha's weaker intensity. In a previous post yesterday, I stated that I did not expect Bertha to reach the NHC's forecast intensity of 55 (now 60) kt. I also anticipated a possible dissipation in the open Atlantic. This appears to be a very real possibility.
In other words, bye, Bertha! You set some records, but you're going to meet a slow, painful, and expected death.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/ir2-l.jpg
In my view, this TC is nearly done.
It is very likely that Bertha will dissipate well before it reaches 55-60 W. The latest satellite data and my personal analysis of the surrounding environment likely foreshadows Bertha's final fate. The system is encountering a stable boundary layer and SAL, which is indicated by the surrounding stratocumulus as mentioned. Shear is strong, and it will only continue to increase as Bertha moves closer to the proximity of the upper low in the central North Atlantic. Consequently, convection is displaced to the NE of the exposed LLC. Bertha's survival probabilities are also greatly reduced by the fact that it is a weak TC. In fact, it has been consistently hedging the lower end of the NHC's intensity forecasts. Climatology for similar July Cape Verde tropical cyclones that formed closest to Bertha's initial latitude/longitude also argues for dissipating over water. The westward trend of the models is a reflection of the fact that they're "catching on" to Bertha's weaker intensity. In a previous post yesterday, I stated that I did not expect Bertha to reach the NHC's forecast intensity of 55 (now 60) kt. I also anticipated a possible dissipation in the open Atlantic. This appears to be a very real possibility.
In other words, bye, Bertha! You set some records, but you're going to meet a slow, painful, and expected death.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/ir2-l.jpg
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
Dry air is choking this thing to death right now.


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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
Still has a strong LLC, good structure, and some convection bursting to the N. It is what is has been all day, a minimal TS over marginal SST's.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
I think it's a little too soon to be writing Bertha's epitaph. The NHC seems to agree.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
From the 11pm NHC advisory: "THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS
NUDGED A LITTLE WESTWARD BUT IS STILL NORTH OF MOST OF THE GUIDANCE
SINCE ONLY A MODEST INCREASE IN STRENGTH WOULD ALLOW BERTHA TO
RESPOND TO THE DEEPER AND MORE NORTHWARD STEERING."
THe NHC is hanging on to their recurving solution near 50-60W even though the models are trending more W, I think the next round of models trending more W will influence a NHC solution that takes a weaker Bertha more W near the NE Bahamas.
NUDGED A LITTLE WESTWARD BUT IS STILL NORTH OF MOST OF THE GUIDANCE
SINCE ONLY A MODEST INCREASE IN STRENGTH WOULD ALLOW BERTHA TO
RESPOND TO THE DEEPER AND MORE NORTHWARD STEERING."
THe NHC is hanging on to their recurving solution near 50-60W even though the models are trending more W, I think the next round of models trending more W will influence a NHC solution that takes a weaker Bertha more W near the NE Bahamas.
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Re: Tropical Storm Bertha in East Atlantic
They have that being a H by 8PM Tuesday? Man, I just don't agree.
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