TC Bertha

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

well from the fixes from the last 2 microwave images. its been a 270 movement..

here look ..


new image with the previous position circled.
so a 275 motion since 1950utc

That is a nice eye developing there. I say 60 knots.

[tolakram]

from the 805 disscusion

"TROPICAL STORM BERTHA IS CENTERED NEAR 18.0N 47.0W AT 2100 UTC
OR ABOUT 1055 MILES...1700 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD
ISLANDS MOVING W AT 18 KT."

Aric I'm looking at the latest and you're continuing to show me older observations. Just observe, if I caught a wobble then shame on me.

[Aric Dunn]

yeah ... not at the present moment... over the last 3 hours its been moving west.. now maybe some more wobbling over the next few more hours might bring about a 280 or so motion ..

[Stratosphere747]

from the 805 disscusion

"TROPICAL STORM BERTHA IS CENTERED NEAR 18.0N 47.0W AT 2100 UTC
OR ABOUT 1055 MILES...1700 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD
ISLANDS MOVING W AT 18 KT."

That's the same position from the earlier advisory...

[Aric Dunn]

from the 805 disscusion

"TROPICAL STORM BERTHA IS CENTERED NEAR 18.0N 47.0W AT 2100 UTC
OR ABOUT 1055 MILES...1700 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD
ISLANDS MOVING W AT 18 KT."

Aric I'm looking at the latest and you're continuing to show me older observations. Just observe, if I caught a wobble then shame on me.

what older that is the latest microwave image

[Aric Dunn]

from the 805 disscusion

"TROPICAL STORM BERTHA IS CENTERED NEAR 18.0N 47.0W AT 2100 UTC
OR ABOUT 1055 MILES...1700 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD
ISLANDS MOVING W AT 18 KT."

That's the same position from the earlier advisory...

but the motion is west..

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/tropical ... 70700.tdsc

[CourierPR]

certainly looks to be gradually making that WNW turn now as she rounds the periphery of the "Azores" ridge.

NHC states movement is west at 18 knots in their 8:05 pm discussion.

[CrazyC83]

At that time of the second scan, I do agree it was 60 kt. It might be 65 kt now depending on what it shows up with in the next scans.

[gatorcane]

certainly looks to be gradually making that WNW turn now as she rounds the periphery of the "Azores" ridge.

NHC states movement is west at 18 knots in their 8:05 pm discussion.

Hmmm....interesting. Well they must be seeing something I don't

[Thunder44]

This evening's QS pass showed a less organized system at the surface:

[brunota2003]

Wow...tonights QS pass is a tad off it's rocker or something!

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

This evening QS pass showed a less organzied system at the surface:

This is why I argue against the people that say that a system that appears to have a well organized LLC on visible, that we have to wait for the godforsaken quickscat! The quickscat has done this many of times before; including Ivan, when he was a cat4. Don't take this one seriously. Theres a LLC with this one.

[senorpepr]

I've been noticing the system elongating SW to NE, most notibly on microwave. Also, it appears dry air is being ingested into the system.

[cycloneye]

Wow...tonights QS pass is a tad off it's rocker or something!

The early morning pass was not correct in terms of location as it was discussed at this thread by the pro mets.

[CourierPR]

A storm's surface organization can be judged solely on the basis of a QS pass ?

[Blown Away]

certainly looks to be gradually making that WNW turn now as she rounds the periphery of the "Azores" ridge.

NHC states movement is west at 18 knots in their 8:05 pm discussion.

Just N of due W and 18kt, not much of a slowdown since yesterday.

[Thunder44]

A storm's surface organization can be judged solely on the basis of a QS pass ?

If this was a hurricane, I would expect to see at least a closed LLC. I'm not seeing one here. Looks like a very sharp surface trof.

[brunota2003]

Wow...tonights QS pass is a tad off it's rocker or something!

The early morning pass was not correct in terms of location as it was discussed at this thread by the pro mets.

I definitely missed that dicussion.

[DESTRUCTION5]

A storm's surface organization can be judged solely on the basis of a QS pass ?

If this was a hurricane, I would expect to see at least a closed LLC. I'm not seeing one here. Looks like a very sharp surface trof.

Good one!!!

[HURAKAN]

For a 60-mph storm you would also expect to see a defined LLC, not a sharp trough. Something is not right!