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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3201 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:33 am

Wow, looking very impressive there. I think we may see a High end Cat 2 at 5pm adv or even back to a Cat 3( Very unlikely.)
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#3202 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:34 am

Here she goes again. It appears that convection is wrapping around the eye. Maybe a Cat-2 hurricane by the 5 pm advisory.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3203 Postby WmE » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:35 am

Weatherfreak14 wrote:Wow, looking very impressive there. I think we may see a High end Cat 2 at 5pm adv or even back to a Cat 3( Very unlikely.)


Now it's probably just a solid Cat 1. I'd go with 70-75kts right now.
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#3204 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:36 am

I don't think its strengthening that quick;y right now though it does look increasingly good, probably will raise it upto 70-75kts though they may say this is conservative estimate. IMO this probably is more like 80kts but you never can tell, track looks like WNW.
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#3205 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:39 am

It didn't even have an eye yesterday and the NHC called it an 80 mph cat-1 hurricane. W/ the eye, I'd say that this is a low end cat-2/high end cat-1.
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#3206 Postby WmE » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:41 am

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:It didn't even have an eye yesterday and the NHC called it an 80 mph cat-1 hurricane. W/ the eye, I'd say that this is a low end cat-2/high end cat-1.


Sometimes appearance and intensity don't match perfectly. As it was a Cat 3 hurricane the winds probably decreased slowlier than the organization.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3207 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:52 am

Clear eye, oh my.

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3208 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:57 am

It is amazing what a difference a day can make. Yesterday almost everyone was calling for it to dissipate or weaknen to a minimal TS, now it is organizing rapidly and could reach Cat 3 today or tomorrow if this trend continues.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3209 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:59 am

txwatcher91 wrote:It is amazing what a difference a day can make. Yesterday almost everyone was calling for it to dissipate or weaknen to a minimal TS, now it is organizing rapidly and could reach Cat 3 today or tomorrow if this trend continues.

Its amazing because it all happened in the last 3 hours. You can see the initial image of the ssd loop where theres not even a trace of an eye, and then sure enough now, the eye is clearing out. This is rapidly organizing and some good strengthening is likely.
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#3210 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:07 pm

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/o ... a_100.jpg#

Stunning images from NASA from aboard the ISS.
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#3211 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:14 pm

fact789 wrote:http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/on_demand_video.html?param=http://mfile.akamai.com/18566/wmv/etouchsyst2.download.akamai.com/18355//wm.nasa-global/hurricane_bertha/VF08_0316.asx&_id=134620&_title=Hurricane%20Bertha&_tnimage=257930main_iss_bertha_100.jpg#

Stunning images from NASA from aboard the ISS.


That was from yesterday morning. They didn't catch it at it's peak.
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#3212 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:15 pm

yes I know.......
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#3213 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:24 pm

Looking increasingly impressive tolakram, that eye is clearing out pretty quickly again and given its small size we may well see some rapid strengthening occuring.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3215 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:28 pm

Is there any ships or bouys out there near the storms???????????????
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3216 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:33 pm

Bertha is currently getting ready to enter the warmest waters that she has been in so at this point really the only thing could stand a chance at keep her from going through another RIC is wind shear and but I am not sure what the wind shear values are in the area.

Water temps are around 28C where she is headed Monday water temps were 27C
Dry air shouldn't be a factor because Monday there was just as much if not more dry air then there is today.
Wind shear is really the only unknown at this point.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3217 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:38 pm


UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 09 JUL 2008 Time : 164500 UTC
Lat : 24:23:59 N Lon : 57:35:18 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.8 / 989.8mb/ 61.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
3.8 4.0 5.6

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -0.0mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 16 km

Center Temp : -7.4C Cloud Region Temp : -59.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 0.5T/hour
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3218 Postby WmE » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:40 pm

Image

Shear shouldn't be a problem for now. The shear on the northern side could enhance the outflow thus helping Bertha.
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#3219 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:41 pm

wobble wobble wobble
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3220 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:41 pm

How do they get T3.8 from Bertha? Tropical Storms do not have eyes. Bertha is not under 65kts!
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