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#3221 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:43 pm

Yeah 3.8 does seem a little on the low side, note the raw estimate is 5.6 which is probably too high. Still until that rises NHC are likely to hold at 65kts even though it looks stronger then that. Hope recon decides to fly into it this time round.
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#3222 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:44 pm

Those reports are always using slightly out of date data and, in my opinion, really fail miserably when a storm is rapidly changing.

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#3223 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:47 pm

Also I note it seems to have wobbled NNW in the last hour, just like the first time it underwent RI.

Looking really impressive now as well!
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#3224 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:47 pm

Bertha's size is also increasing this afternoon. In the first frame shes just a small area of convection then by the last frame shes like more then doubled in size or at least it looks like she has.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3225 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:50 pm

The ADT estimates are under constraint limits at 0.5T/hour.
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#3226 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:51 pm

fact789 wrote:http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/on_demand_video.html?param=http://mfile.akamai.com/18566/wmv/etouchsyst2.download.akamai.com/18355//wm.nasa-global/hurricane_bertha/VF08_0316.asx&_id=134620&_title=Hurricane%20Bertha&_tnimage=257930main_iss_bertha_100.jpg#

Stunning images from NASA from aboard the ISS.


Great image/video.
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#3227 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:52 pm

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:Bertha's size is also increasing this afternoon. In the first frame shes just a small area of convection then by the last frame shes like more then doubled in size or at least it looks like she has.

Bertha also seems a lot more compact...its not that shes little, its that she doesnt have all these clouds extending away from the storm for hundreds of miles like it did the first time. I remember hearing with hurricane dennis that when the outer windfields weaken, the inner windfield gets stronger. That appears to be whats going on here
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#3228 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:56 pm

Bertha has jumped NNW the past few frames and is now north and east of the forecast point.
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#3229 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:58 pm

guys,

it makes almost no difference whether this is 20 miles north or south fo the forecast point.

It is a mere wobble
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#3230 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:02 pm

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Most likely again close or at Cat. 3.
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#3231 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:03 pm

Correction: When I said it wobbled NNW, I was wrong. It actually wobbled a few degrees east of north. :D
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3232 Postby drezee » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:14 pm

09/1745 UTC 24.6N 57.8W T5.0/5.0 BERTHA

5.0 90 KTS 104 MPH 970 mb 954 mb 2 (84-96 KTS); 3 (97-113 KTS)
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#3233 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:26 pm

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Eye clearing up.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3234 Postby TCmet » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:28 pm

That's two episodes of significant rapid intensification now. I think this will be high-end Cat. 2/possibly Cat. 3 at 5pm. This storm continues to impress.

drezee wrote:09/1745 UTC 24.6N 57.8W T5.0/5.0 BERTHA

5.0 90 KTS 104 MPH 970 mb 954 mb 2 (84-96 KTS); 3 (97-113 KTS)
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3235 Postby drezee » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:31 pm

drezee wrote:
Sanibel wrote: Not a true "fist" this time because you won't see intensification follow.


I am curious to why you would make that statement so soon after it happened. Being that I coined the term in 1995 with Hurricane Luis...I believe that it will intensify to at least 100 mph within 22 hours.


indeed it has rapidly intensified
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3236 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:40 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 09 JUL 2008 Time : 174500 UTC
Lat : 24:30:34 N Lon : 57:43:12 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.1 / 985.3mb/ 67.4kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
4.1 5.4 5.8


Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -0.1mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 16 km

Center Temp : +8.5C Cloud Region Temp : -58.6C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 2.2T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3237 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:42 pm

Cat 2 ,85 kts,974 mbs by ATCF:

AL, 02, 2008070918, , BEST, 0, 245N, 578W, 85, 974, HU, 64, NEQ, 25, 15, 15, 15,
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#3238 Postby weatherguru18 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:45 pm

cycloneye wrote:UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 09 JUL 2008 Time : 174500 UTC
Lat : 24:30:34 N Lon : 57:43:12 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.1 / 985.3mb/ 67.4kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
4.1 5.4 5.8


Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -0.1mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 16 km

Center Temp : +8.5C Cloud Region Temp : -58.6C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 2.2T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF



Just curious...where is this info. found at?
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#3239 Postby weatherguru18 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:46 pm

cycloneye wrote:Cat 2 ,85 kts,974 mbs by ATCF:

AL, 02, 2008070918, , BEST, 0, 245N, 578W, 85, 974, HU, 64, NEQ, 25, 15, 15, 15,


and this? Sorry, I just don't know.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3240 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:47 pm

weatherguru18 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 09 JUL 2008 Time : 174500 UTC
Lat : 24:30:34 N Lon : 57:43:12 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.1 / 985.3mb/ 67.4kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
4.1 5.4 5.8


Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -0.1mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 16 km

Center Temp : +8.5C Cloud Region Temp : -58.6C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 2.2T/6hr
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF



Just curious...where is this info. found at?


http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... dt02L.html
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