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#3641 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:59 am

Its a strange looking hurricane I have to admit, the eye is huge whilst tthere is only a thing region of convection to its north which is probably the eyewall and thats about it in terms of convection. Its certainly one of the more weird hurricanes I've seen!
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#3642 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:59 am

What kind of gave me a shock is to realize that in five days Bertha would have just crossed 35°N. I know we want to track cyclones, but to track the same one for too long becomes kind of boring!! WE WANT CRISTÓBAL!!!
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#3643 Postby weatherguru18 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:00 am

artist wrote:latest discussion uses the word annular in its desription of the cloud formations.


Yeah, I commented yesterday about how Bertha was definitely taking on annular characteristics. Isn't that usually the last ditch effort for a storm to stay a hurricane before its demise?
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#3644 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:02 am

Who knows Hurakan, its not expected to move very fast I kind of hope it moves out of the way quickly. The interesting thing is the longer it takes the more chance of any system behind it following it through the same weakness.
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#3645 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:04 am

Welp, I defer to NHC. Warm Bertha deceives the eye from her satellite presentation. That's the driest, dry-banded, warmest-topped "annular" hurricane I've ever seen. Can't argue that Google shot for continuous eyewall though.
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#3646 Postby RL3AO » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:10 am

Yay intermediate advisories!
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#3647 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:12 am

This has got to be one of the oddest TC's ive watched. a roller coaster of intensity, shear, dry air, and cool SSTs all take their whack but all fail to prevent a cat 3, annular (pretty much), tiny eye, huge eye. All I have to say, I wish I could be sitting in the middle of Bertha's eye right now.
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#3648 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:12 am

RL3AO wrote:Yay intermediate advisories!


Yep, good news. I also liked this part of the discussion showing Ávila's humor:

ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS
THAT THE OUTER EYEWALL COULD SHRINK RESULTING IN INTENSIFICATION...
I AM NOT CONSIDERING IT IN THIS FORECAST BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA
WHEN OR IF THIS CYCLE WILL OCCUR
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#3649 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:14 am

Yep Fact this certainly has been an entertaining hurricane, its changed pretty constantly throughout its exsitance, been sheared, had dry air hit it, been a category-3, looks close to being Annular, etc!
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#3650 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:26 am

One thing I'd like to point out on the image blow is the tilt of the eyewall remains. Note that you can identify what looks like 3 concentric rings - one farthest southwest at the surface, one in the mid levels, and one higher up. Picture a cylinder that's pointed up and away from the camera. Remember that the "camera" (the satellite) is located over the Equator to the south and west of Bertha. So when you look at the eye from that angle, the top of the eye is farther away than the bottom (near the surface). That's why the surface center is located in the southwest part of the eye.


HURAKAN wrote:Image

Wow!!
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#3651 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:26 am

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#3652 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:29 am

wxman57 wrote:One thing I'd like to point out on the image blow is the tilt of the eyewall remains. Note that you can identify what looks like 3 concentric rings - one farthest southwest at the surface, one in the mid levels, and one higher up. Picture a cylinder that's pointed up and away from the camera. Remember that the "camera" (the satellite) is located over the Equator to the south and west of Bertha. So when you look at the eye from that angle, the top of the eye is farther away than the bottom (near the surface). That's why the surface center is located in the southwest part of the eye.


HURAKAN wrote:img omitted


I knew where the satellite was, but never looked at the eye in that way. pretty cool!
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#3653 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:30 am

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#3654 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:32 am

It actually kind of reminds me of a super sized Vince in terms of its strcutre!
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#3655 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:47 am

Last frame shows a little wooble to the west and it looks really bad for bermuda if this thing does not take off to the north soon.
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#3656 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:56 am

HURAKAN wrote:What kind of gave me a shock is to realize that in five days Bertha would have just crossed 35°N. I know we want to track cyclones, but to track the same one for too long becomes kind of boring!! WE WANT CRISTÓBAL!!!


It could easily be a month before we get Cristobal.
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#3657 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:58 am

I know but when a storm takes too long to go it becomes boring because it's the same thing every day although Bertha looks like a different storm every day!!!
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#3658 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:00 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
It could easily be a month before we get Cristobal.


Or it could be next Tuesday/Wednesday if you look in the eastern Atlantic.
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#3659 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:04 am

Yeah thats the thing with Bertha its had so many various traits of different systems over the last 5 days and plus it has been setting history, its far more exciting then say the 06 cape verde systems. Wxman57...that sounds pretty bullish for you!
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#3660 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:08 am

KWT wrote:Yeah thats the thing with Bertha its had so many various traits of different systems over the last 5 days and plus it has been setting history, its far more exciting then say the 06 cape verde systems. Wxman57...that sounds pretty bullish for you!



Not as good as the 1999, 2000, 2003, 2004 cape verdes. But better then 2006,2007. In better then 2005.
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