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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#281 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:21 am

cycloneye wrote:Oh boy,over my head!

Here is the loop.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

Yeah you're in the famous Herbert Box... if we're hit in Guadeloupe you have 99% to be impacted Cycloneye, but we have time for that, just a" run", a nasty one :roll: :spam:
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#282 Postby Gustywind » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:32 am

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FXCA62 TJSJ 120938
AFDSJU

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
538 AM AST SAT JUL 12 2008

BRIEF DRYING MAY OCCUR MONDAY NIGHT/EARLY TUESDAY...BEFORE THE MOISTURE
FROM WHAT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY ACTIVE...APPROACHING TROPICAL WAVE
SPREADS ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS LATER TUESDAY/TUESDAY NIGHT INTO
EARLY WEDNESDAY. FA SHOULD RECEIVE A NOTICEABLE INCREASE IN
CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AND GUSTY WINDS AS THIS
FEATURE PASSES BY. AT THIS TIME...DRIER WEATHER IS INDICATED
BEHIND THE TROPICAL WAVE FOR LATE WEDNESDAY/WEDNESDAY NIGHT
THROUGH THURSDAY.
I tkink it's the wave at 45 w... 8-)
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Re: Possible development off W Africa during next several days

#283 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:29 am

06Z operational GFS remains consistent, developing the surface low around 18-24 hours out from now near ~13 N and ~33 W:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/06/images/gfs_ten_018l.gif

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/06/images/gfs_ten_024l.gif
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#284 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:44 am

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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#285 Postby ronjon » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:29 am

I think the GFS runs of our future low are a little suspect now in that they rely upon a huge weakness in the ridge created by Bertha for the system to track north (recurve) in the western Atlantic. Maybe this will occur, but other models such as the Euro and CMC rebuild the ridge (much quicker south of Bertha) and move the low through the caribbean, and the UKMET moves it much slower which would also give time for the ridge to bounce back after Bertha. Much uncertainty still on this one but it does have consistent model support for development.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#286 Postby ronjon » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:33 am

I believe the models are latching on to the easternmost wave rather than the first one - which looks better organized to me - could we have two form?

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#287 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:36 am

We are moving towards the time of the year that EVERYTHING must be watched.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#288 Postby CourierPR » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:39 am

Convection appears to be increasing between 45W and 50W.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#289 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:41 am

I already have one thread on the wave axis just S of the Cape Verde islands:

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=101771&start=60

However, this thread is discussing multiple "areas of interest", including this one. Can some confusion be eliminated?
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#290 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:41 am

ronjon wrote:I believe the models are latching on to the easternmost wave rather than the first one - which looks better organized to me - could we have two form?

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Can you get the animated version of that view, then maybe we can see some rotation. Looks primed to go.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#291 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:52 am

MiamiensisWx wrote:I already have one thread on the wave axis just S of the Cape Verde islands:

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=101771&start=60

However, this thread is discussing multiple "areas of interest", including this one. Can some confusion be eliminated?

No one wants to offer help... sigh. The organization is haphazard.

Can someone merge my thread with this one or utilize this thread strictly for the model runs?
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#292 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:55 am

Yep, I see it to, I think that is the area the models are picking up. Bertha looks cool, she looks to be expanding her windfield, seems like a TS warning will likely be issued for Bermuda now.

I'm guilty MiamiensisWx, and I was originally the one to complain about some many threads about the same topic. I will conform. :D
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Re: Possible development off W Africa during next several days

#293 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:55 am

I see some rotation around 35w and 8n:

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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#294 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:56 am

Blown_away wrote:Yep, I see it to, I think that is the area the models are picking up. Bertha looks cool, she looks to be expanding her windfield, seems like a TS warning will likely be issued for Bermuda now.

I'm guilty MiamiensisWx, and I was originally the one to complain about some many threads about the same topic. I will conform. :D

The bolded portion is the obstruction I want to eliminate. I sent a few PMs to cycloneye, but I received no response or possible solution, so I decided to publicly ask for solutions here.

We need one main models/discussions thread for the wave axis S of the Cape Verde islands (possible development between 35-32 W). The plethora of threads (two separate ones) on the same area of interest is a conundrum.
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#295 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:59 am

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#296 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:07 am

Yeah, I am confused where to post, too many for the same possible system.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#297 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:18 am

I'm confused too. The wave at about 50º has more convection, but the wave at 35º has some rotation. And an impressive looking wave appears about a day from exiting Africa.


I hope we get a floater on 35ºW.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#298 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:18 am

I decided that this model thread will merge with the miamiwx thread to then have one big thread to post models and to discuss about the area of interest.
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Re: GFS,CMC,EURO,UKMET,NOGAPS spawn New Low in E Atlantic

#299 Postby Blown Away » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:22 am

ronjon wrote:I believe the models are latching on to the easternmost wave rather than the first one - which looks better organized to me - could we have two form?

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Think we will get an invest this weekend out the area between 40-50W or the area just behind it?
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#300 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:22 am

Thanks, Luis!!!

This thread is specifically referring to the area along ~12-13 N between 35-32 W.
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