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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#281 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:04 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:will be interesting to see how strong the GFDL makes it...


Makes it a hurricane in the Western Caribbean.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation


Its obvious shear will not be as bad as once thought...SHIPS also brings this to a cat 2 I believe...NHC TWO also states condition appear favorable in the eastern caribbean...
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#282 Postby funster » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:09 pm

Ivanhater - what is SHIPS please? Thank you.
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#283 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:12 pm

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#284 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:15 pm

funster wrote:Ivanhater - what is SHIPS please? Thank you.


Hey funster..here is the textbook answer for it..SHIPS (Statistical Hurricane Intensity Prediction Scheme) is a statistical model that uses climatological, persistence and synoptic predictors.

This model indicates what the shear will be like in the storms path...
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#285 Postby funster » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:17 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
funster wrote:Ivanhater - what is SHIPS please? Thank you.


Hey funster..here is the textbook answer for it..SHIPS (Statistical Hurricane Intensity Prediction Scheme) is a statistical model that uses climatological, persistence and synoptic predictors.

This model indicates what the shear will be like in the storms path...


Oh cool - a shear measurer! Thanks :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#286 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:19 pm

funster,a SHIP forecast will be posted very soon to see how the shear will be thru 120 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#287 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:29 pm

While,HWRF does anything intensitywise,look at the track.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#288 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:43 pm

The 00:00 UTC model guidance has SHIP having a 75kt hurricane but DSHP lowers it as it eencounters Yucatan.

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0036 UTC THU JUL 17 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL942008) 20080717 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080717 0000 080717 1200 080718 0000 080718 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 12.3N 60.5W 12.7N 64.0W 13.2N 67.3W 13.8N 70.4W
BAMD 12.3N 60.5W 12.0N 63.1W 12.0N 65.5W 12.2N 68.1W
BAMM 12.3N 60.5W 12.6N 63.2W 13.1N 65.8W 13.8N 68.4W
LBAR 12.3N 60.5W 12.3N 64.1W 12.7N 67.8W 13.0N 71.9W
SHIP 30KTS 34KTS 39KTS 45KTS
DSHP 30KTS 34KTS 39KTS 45KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080719 0000 080720 0000 080721 0000 080722 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 14.6N 73.7W 16.5N 81.2W 17.8N 88.1W 18.1N 93.5W
BAMD 12.8N 70.8W 14.4N 75.9W 15.8N 80.7W 16.9N 84.7W
BAMM 14.8N 71.0W 17.2N 76.6W 19.4N 82.0W 21.0N 86.3W
LBAR 13.8N 75.7W 15.7N 82.2W 16.4N 87.2W .0N .0W
SHIP 53KTS 63KTS 68KTS 75KTS
DSHP 53KTS 63KTS 63KTS 36KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 12.3N LONCUR = 60.5W DIRCUR = 270DEG SPDCUR = 21KT
LATM12 = 12.2N LONM12 = 56.5W DIRM12 = 272DEG SPDM12 = 24KT
LATM24 = 12.2N LONM24 = 51.8W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1012MB OUTRAD = 160NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#289 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:47 pm

These tracks look like last year all over again. Sucks for Mexico.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#290 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:59 pm

Here are the latest tracks of the BAM Models and GFDL in the blue line.

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#291 Postby Gustywind » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:02 pm

:uarrow: can't use it Cycloneye
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#292 Postby canegrl04 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:03 pm

Gustywind wrote::uarrow: can't use it Cycloneye


Neither can I
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#293 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:04 pm

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Ok now its there. :)
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#294 Postby chadtm80 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:05 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#295 Postby canegrl04 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:09 pm

Will be interesting in the next 72 hours if the models stick with a Yucatan crash,or if they start to move it into the Channel
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#296 Postby Gustywind » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:Image

Ok now its there. :)

TKANKS :) :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#297 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:13 pm

canegrl04 wrote:Will be interesting in the next 72 hours if the models stick with a Yucatan crash,or if they start to move it into the Channel


They all seem clustered South of the Channel. I really don't see anything to change that.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#298 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:36 pm

Here is the 00:00 UTC SHIP forecast: Shear is not a problem distint from earlier forecasts when it was in the high 20s.

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    *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      INVEST  AL942008  07/17/08  00 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    30    32    34    36    39    45    53    59    63    65    70    74    76
V (KT) LAND       30    32    34    36    39    45    53    59    63    65    64    55    36
V (KT) LGE mod    30    30    31    31    32    35    39    46    55    61    60    53    35

SHEAR (KTS)       16    14    18    15    11     7     5    14    13   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
SHEAR DIR        317   326   331   344   338   336   267   308   284   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
SST (C)         28.1  27.9  27.7  27.8  27.8  27.3  27.5  27.9  28.0  28.2  28.4  28.7  28.6
POT. INT. (KT)   141   138   136   137   136   130   132   137   139   141   144   148   146
ADJ. POT. INT.   149   144   140   141   139   131   134   139   139   141   141   143   140
200 MB T (C)   -54.5 -54.7 -54.9 -54.6 -54.3 -54.7 -54.3 -54.5 -54.0   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
TH_E DEV (C)      10     9     8    10    10     8    10     8    10   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
700-500 MB RH     62    60    61    62    64    63    66    66    66   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
GFS VTEX (KT)      9    10    10    10    10     9     8     8     6  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST
850 MB ENV VOR    13    19    33    37    38    36    66    82    60   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
200 MB DIV        20    24    19    27    38    19    31    38    32   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
LAND (KM)        175   194   213   233   180    89   233   419   301    36    48   -63   -30
LAT (DEG N)     12.3  12.5  12.6  12.7  12.8  13.0  13.3  13.9  14.7  15.5  16.2  17.2  18.4
LONG(DEG W)     60.5  62.4  64.3  66.1  67.8  70.9  74.2  77.4  80.4  83.4  86.3  88.8  91.0
STM SPEED (KT)    19    19    18    17    16    16    16    15    15    15    14    12    12
HEAT CONTENT      60    31    31    39    47    23    32    61    50     1    25  9999  9999

  FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):270/ 21      CX,CY: -20/  0
  T-12 MAX WIND:  30            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  693  (MEAN=625)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 100-300 KM RAD:  21.7 (MEAN=20.0)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  81.0 (MEAN=68.6)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  10.  11.  12.  12.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL          0.   1.   1.   2.   6.  11.  16.  21.  25.  28.  30.  32.
  VERTICAL SHEAR         0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   4.   3.   3.   1.   0.   0.   0.
  PERSISTENCE            0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   3.   3.   4.   4.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.  -4.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -2.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -4.  -3.  -4.  -4.  -4.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   2.   2.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   1.   1.   2.   3.   4.   5.   6.   7.   8.  10.  10.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SUB-TOTAL CHANGE       1.   3.   5.   8.  14.  22.  29.  34.  38.  43.  47.  49.

  SATELLITE ADJUSTMENTS ----------------------------------------------------------
  MEAN ADJUSTMENT        0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  GOES IR STD DEV        1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   1.   1.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  GOES IR PIXEL COUNT    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL ADJUSTMENT       1.   1.   2.   2.   1.   1.   0.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -3.  -3.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE (KT)      2.   4.   6.   9.  16.  23.  29.  33.  35.  40.  44.  46.

   ** 2008 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL942008     INVEST 07/17/08  00 UTC **
           ( 25 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):   0.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  1.1
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  14.8 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  1.0
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :  25.6 Range:-20.0 to 149.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.4
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   : 112.7 Range: 25.1 to 130.7 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  1.0
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  74.4 Range: 56.0 to  88.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  0.2
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:  64.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  0.1
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :  13.8 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  0.9
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  41.6 Range:  0.0 to 132.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=    23% is   1.9 times the sample mean(12.3%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=    14% is   1.8 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     7% is   1.7 times the sample mean( 4.5%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL942008     INVEST 07/17/08  00 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY 
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#299 Postby V4V » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:46 pm

Hey can anyone tell me what's the latest with invest 94? I'm looking for a satellite image of it's current location.
Thanks much :wink:
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#300 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:18 pm

V4V wrote:Hey can anyone tell me what's the latest with invest 94? I'm looking for a satellite image of it's current location.
Thanks much :wink:




run up a few threads to 94L discussions....here its just for models...

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