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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#461 Postby jhamps10 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:49 pm

looks like Ships guidence takes it to just south of Corpus Cristi in this run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#462 Postby ronjon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:58 pm

18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#463 Postby jhamps10 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:03 pm

ronjon wrote:18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


link goes to 96L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#464 Postby Recurve » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:16 pm

Wow. No shear until late. But ships is suspect on shear prediction? Current shear looked strong ahead at CIMSS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#465 Postby Recurve » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:18 pm

ronjon wrote:18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


It sure does, but with max winds = 15 knots
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#466 Postby ronjon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:18 pm

jhamps10 wrote:
ronjon wrote:18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


link goes to 96L.


yes, run the link for 96L and see what happens with 94L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#467 Postby ronjon » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:20 pm

Recurve wrote:
ronjon wrote:18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


It sure does, but with max winds = 15 knots



Ah...the 15 kts is for 96L. Looks like tropical storm conditions for 94L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#468 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:21 pm

ronjon wrote:
jhamps10 wrote:
ronjon wrote:18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


link goes to 96L.


yes, run the link for 96L and see what happens with 94L.


Look at the outer coarse grid...

Of course, lower resolution may effect the solution that the 96L model run has for 94L. The 94L run may be completely different, although I would guess with similar input data and boundary conditions from the GFS, they should be somewhat similar.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#469 Postby Recurve » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:23 pm

ronjon wrote:
Recurve wrote:
ronjon wrote:18Z GFDL run for 96L doesn't develop it - but it does develop 94L - heads straight for Houston.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008071818-invest96l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation


It sure does, but with max winds = 15 knots



Ah...the 15 kts is for 96L. Looks like tropical storm conditions for 94L.


Roger that, but it's not that strong, one pressure line, right?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#470 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:24 pm

I guess, for whatever reason, the good folks at the Global Fluid Dynamics Lab didn't run an 18Z model on 94L


For that matter, don't they also run the GFDL with NoGaps as initial and boundary conditions? How come I never seen that linked or displayed?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#471 Postby Recurve » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:25 pm

It does't look to be under 1000 mb on that plot, but ICBW.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#472 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:27 pm

The lower resolution of the outer grid that the inner fine grid is nested within suggests inferring intensity of a different system from 96L/TD #3 may not be sound.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#473 Postby Recurve » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:27 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:The lower resolution of the outer grid that the inner fine grid is nested within suggests inferring intensity of a different system from 96L/TD #3 may not be sound.


True too. The track is enough to digest at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#474 Postby Wx_Warrior » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:42 pm

Even EURO has way south...
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http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... floop.html[/url]
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#475 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:49 pm

3 times now, in 4 days, I was sure it would become a TD and said so on this thread.


Based on Wxman57 and Derek's assesments, and the apparent lack of a surface circulation, I'm starting to doubt. It'll probably flare up again tonight, the plane will go in tomorrow, and probably found nothing again.


Just a hunch.

But an open wave with a deep surge of moisture is just what Texas needs now.



GFS at 24 hours, gentle wave near Jamaica.


The GFS hasn't done badly at all so far in 2008...


bed time.

The wave does sharpen a bit at 48 hours as it is crossing the Yucatan. But still no TD
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#476 Postby Wx_Warrior » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:58 pm

GFS 00, 66 hr

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#477 Postby Duddy » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:58 pm

Dangit, I'll be staying at the Sheraton next to the Galleria all next week for business. It's hard enough driving in that area without constant heavy rains and wind.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#478 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:01 pm

Been a long haul with 94L Ed. :lol: Don't like seeing the shift back to the N this run. The GOM may well be were it finally develops.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#479 Postby Wx_Warrior » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:04 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#480 Postby Wx_Warrior » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:15 pm

106 hr-GFS

Land ho - Brownsville - Tons of rain for Tx coast!!!

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