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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2901 Postby boca » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:01 am

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Looking at this tonight I see a lot of reds on the south end of this mess along with the mid level spin at 14n and 75w. I think we'll have a depression out of this by tomorrow at 11am at the earliest.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2902 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:04 am

I dont see it but who knows? Maybe afternoon-ish if any.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2903 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:13 am

Ok, haven't quite gone to bed yet.

The databouy near 15ºN, 75ºW appears to be near wherever what spin that still exists is on the satellite image.

But the lowest pressure passed about 5 hours ago, and winds are ESE. Wind shift when the pressure bottomed was from just North of due East to just South of due East. The wave does not have that sharp a wind shift.

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I would now say this will not develop in the next day, even if another flare up of early morning storms tries to sucker me into going 0/4. I have posted 3 times in 4 days this will be a TD today, and am perfect at being wrong. Now I will go 1/5, bat .200, by finally predicting this isn't going to be a TD today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2904 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:17 am

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TD 3 may weaken the ridge, and also, the ULL may pull 94L
further north than the current consensus:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2905 Postby coreyl » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:19 am

What kind of environment will the invest be entering in the day or two?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2906 Postby lrak » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:28 am

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I need some doughnuts. 8-) :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2907 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:35 am

We'll see what the next EURO in an hour or so has to say about this blob.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2908 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:38 am

It may not be dead, but the drug induced coma doesn't look to end in the next day...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2909 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:40 am

I like the chances of survival of the blob...Can't wait until the "it's headed for Galveston" posts are made...

Over/under 2:30 pm Saturday - :onfire:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2910 Postby lrak » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:53 am

Wx_Warrior wrote:I like the chances of survival of the blob...Can't wait until the "it's headed for Galveston" posts are made...

Over/under 2:30 pm Saturday - :onfire:


Hmm, poking a Galvestonian with a spoon is illegal eh?

And didn't I read "Land ho - Brownsville" somewhere? :P
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2911 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:27 am

Well dont look now but 00z GFDL has this hitting Houston as a cat 5! :eek: :spam:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2912 Postby jasons2k » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:43 am

It still seems to be running on the northern side of the models...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2913 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:45 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2914 Postby RattleMan » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:11 am

Ivanhater wrote:Well dont look now but 00z GFDL has this hitting Houston as a cat 5! :eek: :spam:

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Indeed.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2915 Postby southerngale » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:20 am

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 AM EDT SAT JUL 19 2008

TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 73W S OF 21N WITH A 1008 MB LOW ALONG
THE WAVE AXIS NEAR 15N MOVING WNW 15-20 KT. A TROPICAL CYCLONE
COULD FORM AT ANY TIME AS THE SYSTEM MOVES TOWARD THE WNW. ALL
INTERESTS IN JAMAICA...THE CAYMAN ISLANDS...AND THE NORTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS
SYSTEM. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL IS MOVING ACROSS HISPANIOLA...
THE WINDWARD PASSAGE...AND JAMAICA. SCATTERED MODERATE TO STRONG
CONVECTION IS FROM 17N-21N BETWEEN 71W-77W. SCATTERED MODERATE
TO ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS NEAR THE LOW CENTER FROM
13N-15N BETWEEN 73W-75W. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS OVER N
COLOMBIA FROM 10N-12N BETWEEN 72W-74W.
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#2916 Postby KWT » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:24 am

Well this looks a bit o a mess once atgain just when it looks like it was clsoe to getting going the convection has weakened in a big way once again. There probably is still a MLC but its not quite as close as it was yesterday.
However at least its looking odds on that we will see this making the GoM or the BoC where there probably is a better set-up for this wave to do something in.
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#2917 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:28 am

based upon the way it looks this morning, recon maybe should be cancelled. Not much to investigate
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2918 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:49 am

If there is a LLC, it is moving south of buoy 42058:

http://ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42058

I don't really think there is one, however.
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#2919 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:57 am

one thing worth noting... even the GFDL and HWRF absurred forecasts do not spin this up into a cyclone for another 48 hours
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2920 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:00 am

Looks pretty sheared out this morning, the ULL to its NW has helped hinder development short term.

Although most of the sheared convection is further west any kind of center is probably still back near 14.5 N 75W.

The ULL that has been providing shear looks like it is weakening and rolling west, as the shear drops we will get a better idea of where a LLC is forming.

They probably won't send recon out till the next strong convective cycle.
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