ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

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#4861 Postby mattpetre » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:09 am

Looks like circulations are consolidating in the last few IR frames (just from general interpretation of cloud direction signatures. I'd say this will definately just clip the Yuc and then it's just a matter of following wxman57's advice for now and watching the convection and where it's headed until a well-defined center forms.
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#4862 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:09 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
jhamps10 wrote:Playa del Carmen has a NNW wind, as of midnight central.

http://www.met.inf.cu/Radar/00Pinar%20d ... AXw01a.gif


ok, where is that?


Its pretty close to Cancun.
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#4863 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:10 am

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:
Nederlander wrote:
Chacor wrote:Cancun reporting NE 17 kt (20 mph) winds at 1 ET.


does this mean a center NE of Cancun?


No I am pretty sure it means that the center is west of there.[/quote

means the center is SE
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#4864 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:10 am

curtadams wrote:
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Chacor wrote:Cancun reporting NE 17 kt (20 mph) winds at 1 ET.


does this mean a center NE of Cancun?

Implies a center (roughly) SOUTHeast of Cancun and, given Dolly's general NW motion, likely to make landfall close to Cancun.


Ok I guess I am confused here! A NE wind means that its blowing from southwest to Northeast. Giving the counter clock wise rotation of the wind wouldn't a location have to be southeast of the center to get the NE winds on the back side of the circulation?
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#4865 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:10 am

Last IR shot on this loop looks to me to have some sort of center of rotation very near Cancun.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-avn.html

What I think seems apparent now is that a major traverse across the YP isn't going to happen, Dolly's internal disruption will be minimal, and with warm SST's and superb atmospheric conditions ahead of her, this is going to be the major news story of this next week (and who knows, maybe even beyond).

I think that tonight has put the southern and central Texas coastlines very much under the gun. Unless I miss my guess, Monday will be a very active day in the Lone Star State as preps begin in earnest.
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#4866 Postby jhamps10 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:11 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
jhamps10 wrote:Playa del Carmen has a NNW wind, as of midnight central.

http://www.met.inf.cu/Radar/00Pinar%20d ... AXw01a.gif


ok, where is that?


20.62N,87.07W

It was another option for a reporting station in the Cozumel forecast page on wunderground.
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#4867 Postby Nederlander » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:12 am

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:Ok I guess I am confused here! A NE wind means that its blowing from southwest to Northeast. Giving the counter clock wise rotation of the wind wouldn't a location have to be southeast of the center to get the NE winds on the back side of the circulation?


a NE wind means its blowing FROM the NE... just as a SW wind means its blowing FROM the SW
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#4868 Postby paintplaye » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:13 am

Ok so what does the general movement of the storm look like now? NW? WNW? West?
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#4869 Postby mattpetre » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:15 am

This could still just be an open wave, right? That was the CONsensus earlier and we have nothing yet to really refute that other than some Mexican radar (which could be MLC). So the center may be nowhere and the general storm motion is all we have... which is into the GOM or BOC as far as most can tell.
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#4870 Postby americanrebel » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:15 am

Nederlander wrote:
Chacor wrote:

Ok I guess I am confused here! A NE wind means that its blowing from southwest to Northeast. Giving the counter clock wise rotation of the wind wouldn't a location have to be southeast of the center to get the NE winds on the back side of the circulation?


a NE wind means its blowing FROM the NE... just as a SW wind means its blowing FROM the SW


I think Chacor is correct about the wind is blowing from Southwest to Northeast, so that would mean the center is Just North of there.

But if Nederlander is right then the center would be South to Southeast of there.
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#4871 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 am

NE wind means wind from the northeast.
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#4872 Postby Nederlander » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 am

americanrebel wrote:
Nederlander wrote:
Chacor wrote:

Ok I guess I am confused here! A NE wind means that its blowing from southwest to Northeast. Giving the counter clock wise rotation of the wind wouldn't a location have to be southeast of the center to get the NE winds on the back side of the circulation?


a NE wind means its blowing FROM the NE... just as a SW wind means its blowing FROM the SW


I think Chacor is correct about the wind is blowing from Southwest to Northeast, so that would mean the center is Just North of there.

But if Nederlander is right then the center would be South to Southeast of there.


I had the quote wrong... it was Hurricanewatcher, not chacor
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#4873 Postby mattpetre » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 am

In weather terms NE winds means that the wind is coming from the NE (every time I've ever heard it at least) that's why they call lows off the New England coast North Easter's.

Although, at the risk of offending someone (which I seem to do with my opinions on occasion); I believe it would make more sense for a NE wind to mean that the wind was blowing towards the NE. Cause that would be the direction the weather vane would be pointing and would also denote the direction of the actual wind. Oh well, no chance of changing hundreds of years of history on a message board.
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#4874 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:17 am

americanrebel wrote:
Nederlander wrote:
Chacor wrote:

Ok I guess I am confused here! A NE wind means that its blowing from southwest to Northeast. Giving the counter clock wise rotation of the wind wouldn't a location have to be southeast of the center to get the NE winds on the back side of the circulation?


a NE wind means its blowing FROM the NE... just as a SW wind means its blowing FROM the SW


I think Chacor is correct about the wind is blowing from Southwest to Northeast, so that would mean the center is Just North of there.

But if Nederlander is right then the center would be South to Southeast of there.

Nederlander is right...this is how they do it.
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#4875 Postby Nederlander » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:17 am

paintplaye wrote:Ok so what does the general movement of the storm look like now? NW? WNW? West?


still looks NW to me

EDIT: I am expecting a bend within 4-6 hours
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#4876 Postby paintplaye » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:19 am

Nederlander wrote:
paintplaye wrote:Ok so what does the general movement of the storm look like now? NW? WNW? West?


still looks NW to me

EDIT: I am expecting a bend within 4-6 hours



I thought so. It is just kind of hard with the center.


What do you mean bend?
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#4877 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:19 am

I'm watching for weakening cloud tops to determine if this is an open wave
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#4878 Postby americanrebel » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:19 am

So that would mean the center is either South or Southeast of that station, correct????
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#4879 Postby Nederlander » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:21 am

HouTXmetro wrote:I'm watching for weakening cloud tops to determine if this is an open wave


IMHO, we have an LLC going over Cancun now.... maybe a little to the east which means it would miss the yucatan, or split the difference
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#4880 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:21 am

What time do the satellites get knocked out and for how long?
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