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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5561 Postby ROCK » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:29 pm

not surprising DWG71, you do this every year since 2004.... :wink:
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5562 Postby Sjones » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:30 pm

I think if it slows down a pretty good bit, the forecast track will be changing
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5563 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:30 pm

If you make a prediction within the NHC's cone you can't go wrong and that's pretty much
what many are doing on this thread give or take a few hundred miles. Anyway the NHC insists Dolly will slow down big time and that is when things will get very very interesting.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5564 Postby sunny » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:30 pm

lrak wrote:http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=BRO&product=N0Z&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

Dang, feeder bands already?


Just pulled up GRL3 - you can see the bands approaching.....
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#5565 Postby HarlequinBoy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:31 pm

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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5566 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:31 pm

One thing I've learned today is from the Trop Analysis page where one of the mets said that a good rule of thumb is that it takes a TC about 18 hours to recover from landfall.

Will be interesting to see if Dolly starts to get her act together now that we're closing in on that time frame.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5567 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:32 pm

Mid level dry air is clearly an issue, in my view. Note the arc clouds emanating from the southern semicircle.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html

WV seems to confirm it on the S side as well.
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#5568 Postby lrak » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:33 pm

HarlequinBoy wrote:Image


very strange looking TS.
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#5569 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:33 pm

Yep feeder bands already getting pretty north, its got a huge circulation though the higher winds aren't quite so expansive.

Deeper convection slowly flaring up close to the center, this should continue to occur tonight as the inner core gets better developed, I think once it gets good deep convection then expect a quick jump in wind strength.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5570 Postby dwg71 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:33 pm

ROCK wrote:not surprising DWG71, you do this every year since 2004.... :wink:


I'm probably an opposite-wish/caster (sounds like seinfeld episode), there are many that jump on a Houston storm when it sprinkles in east Africa. At least, I can admit my bias. But. I do think this will come in south of the border like the Euro.
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#5571 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:34 pm

better watch out its going to start its intensification phase ...
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5572 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:35 pm

I have to admit that Dolly is far from the storm that I thought she would be at this point today.

But if the slowing does take place, given the warm SST's, the conducive upper air environment, and the forecast of a weakening ridge, I still think it is possible that my earlier unofficial call for a landfall on the middle Tx coast between Corpus and Port O'Connor as a Cat 2, maybe a low end Cat 3 could happen.

But that's if the slowing takes place because the window for all of that to take place isn't very big.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5573 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:35 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Mid level dry air is clearly an issue, in my view. Note the arc clouds emanating from the southern semicircle.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html

WV seems to confirm it on the S side as well.

New convection may experience problems as mid level dry air is subsequently transported to the boundary layer. I believe we're observing some gradual intensification, but some issues remain with the mid level dry air.

Regardless, I still expect hurricane intensity in its life span.
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#5574 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:36 pm

lrak wrote:
HarlequinBoy wrote:Image


very strange looking TS.

Indeed it is, but it looks infinitely better than this morning, and this is the best it has looked all its life. I hope that tiny clear dot where the center is isnt an indication of a pinhole eye...
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5575 Postby paintplaye » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:37 pm

I am not worried about a hit for Houston. What i am afraid of is the rain. I wouldn't be surprised to see A LOT of rain.
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#5576 Postby HarlequinBoy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:38 pm

24 hours ago the NHC predicted Dolly at 45 knots at the 5 PM advisory...and they were correct.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5577 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:39 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:Mid level dry air is clearly an issue, in my view. Note the arc clouds emanating from the southern semicircle.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html

WV seems to confirm it on the S side as well.

New convection may experience problems as mid level dry air is subsequently transported to the boundary layer. I believe we're observing some gradual intensification, but some issues remain with the mid level dry air.

Regardless, I still expect hurricane intensity in its life span.


people and the dry air... geez
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5578 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:43 pm

CheezyWXguy,

I've been looking at the vis and IR satellite loops and while it's hard to believe that's what it is given its slow developement, it does look like perhaps an eye-like feature is trying to occur there. Last frame on the IR shot shows a deep convective burst right on the southern edge of that "eye", so I guess we'll see in time if that starts to expand and wrap.

Interesting storm whatever happens.
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#5579 Postby Brent » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:45 pm

HarlequinBoy wrote:Image


Looks better but still very broad and bizarre looking.

I do think it's trying to strengthen though and probably will some overnight.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5580 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:45 pm

3 0.970 Ace

This is from Wikipedia...

Should be crossing 1 ace next Advisory.
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