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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5581 Postby paintplaye » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:46 pm

It looks like it is starting to take a more NW turn. IMO
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#5582 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:47 pm

It has a very large area of moisture/convection,
so Tropical Storm Dolly is a very large storm.
It is moving over very warm waters and should
intensify to a hurricane of at least 80 mph
over those waters.
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#5583 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:47 pm

Aric, there is some slight dry air present, esp im the mid-level though I don't think that a great problem for this system esp once it develops its inner core totally, I think its getting pretty close to finishing this process now and once done we could well see some much quicker strengthening.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5584 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:48 pm

Image

It is difficult and potentially incendiary to ignore it.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5585 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:49 pm

paintplaye wrote:It looks like it is starting to take a more NW turn. IMO


Don't know about that yet, it's clearly WNW to me.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5586 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:50 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Image



Im with you on this one..Ortt disagrees...I think it pretty evident this is not going to be a major TX prob wind wise..
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5587 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:50 pm

:uarrow: No mention at NHC discussion of dry air.
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#5588 Postby txwatcher91 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:50 pm

Wouldn't it be something if this went from having no eye to t-storm all around it and an eye tonight? I know, that won't happen, but IMO a Cat 2 or 3 is very possible as long as it slows down.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5589 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:51 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Im with you on this one..Ortt disagrees...I think it pretty evident this is not going to be a major TX prob wind wise..

An intensifying Cat 1 presents fairly significant wind issues, especially along the coast.
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#5590 Postby funster » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:52 pm

lrak wrote:
HarlequinBoy wrote:Image


very strange looking TS.


She's a very freaky girl...
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#5591 Postby PauleinHouston » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:52 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:better watch out its going to start its intensification phase ...


Aric,
I agree...she's cleared the influence of Yucatan. Interestting that the ULL has pulled down to bottom of the BOC...wrap around moisture spinning off and feeding up towards Dolly. I think convection starting to fill in quickly now s/se quadrant and she'll be off and running. Wouldn't be surprised to see a semblance of an eye by tomorrow morning either.

All IMHO...
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5592 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:52 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: No mention at NHC discussion of dry air.



Yes thier comments duplicated my thoughts on Dolly earlier this afternoon..All they way to this not even msaking Cane status..
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#5593 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:53 pm

We are one burst of covection away from this board going "this won't even become a hurricane" to "this will be a major hurricane tomorrow". :D
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#5594 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:53 pm

KWT wrote:Aric, there is some slight dry air present, esp im the mid-level though I don't think that a great problem for this system esp once it develops its inner core totally, I think its getting pretty close to finishing this process now and once done we could well see some much quicker strengthening.


sorry but the amount of (possible) dry air to the south of has clearly not penetrated the moisture envelope and dont believe that the convection less area to the east has anything to do with dry air.. it is simply a by product of the way the center and convection reformed last night and this morning. it just so happened that center reformed on the south side of an east to west elongated area of convection and when the convection began to wrap around the west side it has giving it the appearance of dry air. now im saying there is none at all .. but its such a small amount its not having any major effect on the convection at all...
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#5595 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:53 pm

Tropical Storm Dolly's Moisture Envelope is 600 miles wide (Texas to Cuba)
East to West.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5596 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:54 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Im with you on this one..Ortt disagrees...I think it pretty evident this is not going to be a major TX prob wind wise..

An intensifying Cat 1 presents fairly significant wind issues, especially along the coast.



Big differences between Foliage and Strucural is what im looking at here
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5597 Postby lrak » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:54 pm

As an average, what would you guys and gals say about Dolly?

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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5598 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:55 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: No mention at NHC discussion of dry air.


very true .. i have never known them to not mention something that would affect their forecast.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5599 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:55 pm

lrak wrote:As an average, what would you guys and gals say about Dolly?

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#5600 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:55 pm

MiamiensisWx, worth noting those clouds you mention are from an outflow boundary from about 3hrs ago with new conve ction developing on it as it heads southwards, not sure thats a sign of mid level dry air really though i suppose it may be there a little bit. As you say though min cat-1 strengthening is an issue, look at Katrina's first landfall in Florida for an example of that.

By the way Aric, i agree I said its probably only a slight issue, a large burst will probably mix out whats left, the inner core issue is the main reason this has been slow to get going.
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