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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6541 Postby jinftl » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:52 pm

nothing gives you that 'chill down the spine' feeling like pics like this...thanks for posting...makes the situation all the more real for those of us not in dolly's path


Ivanhater wrote:Evacuation in Brownsville

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#6542 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:52 pm

KWT wrote:Yep Gatorcane stronger convection now starting to work its way round on the southern side as well, only a matter of time before the eyewall finally closes up. IR also showing some more intense convection starting to come back in the eyewall on the western side.
Al lthis is a sign of strengthening occuring with Dolly, I think its only a matter of time before we have hurricane Dolly I'd have thought given the structure continues to improve.


There is no question that this thing is strengthening in my opinion, the eye should come out again over the next couple of hours.
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#6543 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:53 pm

The problem is this center will probably wobble about a lot as ther eis some pretty powerful convection developing in the eyewall at various points that may drag the center a little bit about and make it wobble til lit gets stronger and better stacked up.
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#6544 Postby jasons2k » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:53 pm

Just a tidbit - I noticed on the last VDM that the surface center and FLC are 10 nm apart. The radar depiction is closer to the FLC so we're not seeing exactly where the surface center is, but it's very close. It should be perfectly stacked very shortly though.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6545 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:54 pm

Been there, done that....Took me 9 hours to go 90 miles north.
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#6546 Postby artist » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:54 pm

hsvwx wrote:
KWT wrote:Indeed just shows the use of the cone gatorcane but sadly many people just pay attention to the line.

hiflyer, thanks so stil lgot a little while yet before we see conditions really go down hill for south Texas and northern Mexico.


I actually really dislike the line...I think they should just go with a cone of uncertainty, so people in that whole cone will pay attention and take the proper precautions to safe life and property.

according to Team4News online 63% of the people responding to a poll in Brownsville said they are not prepared.
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#6547 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:55 pm

Great points Jason! It appears that the MLC or flight level center is moving NW or NNW...I mean, the radar beam is showing us what is at 15k.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6548 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:55 pm

drezee wrote:Based on the HCT assertion, I would say that rapid intensification would start after 2115Z (515pm Eastern). not much time to go before landfall, so probably likely to not go major with current speed.


Note: I believe that RI starts in less than 3 hours now...
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#6549 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:57 pm

Well its possible Dreeze but I'm not sure unless the center gets stacked, i do think that at least moderate strengthening is pretty close now though with the eyewall is close to closing up at last, maybe RI who knows I suppose?
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#6550 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:58 pm

Dvorak image shows some shades of darker greys on the western side of the eye. Those are probably where some of the strongest winds are. But note the NE Quad is where the strongest winds typically are (and where they may end up before landfall).

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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6551 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:59 pm

She's is looking more and more impressive.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6552 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:00 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Evacuation in Brownsville

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HAHA... watch for pelicans when flashing. LOL.
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#6553 Postby caribepr » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:00 pm

For those who don't know their compass degrees, here is a very simple compass rose so the numbers used when discussing direction make more sense.

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#6554 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:01 pm

gatorcane, only need the deeper convection to move a little further to the east and connect up with the other side of the eyewall and we will see this system strengthen pretty good. Eye is pretty clear as day there as well, sure do hope it doesn't strengthen too much from now to be honest!
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#6555 Postby jhamps10 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:01 pm

looking at radar, the last few frames are showing very little movement compaired to just a bit ago. looks like she is slowing down some more. and the only movement I see is NW or maybe even NNW....
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#6556 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 pm

KWT wrote:gatorcane, only need the deeper convection to move a little further to the east and connect up with the other side of the eyewall and we will see this system strengthen pretty good. Eye is pretty clear as day there as well, sure do hope it doesn't strengthen too much from now to be honest!


you are right lets see what happens. Good point BTW.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6557 Postby JPmia » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:03 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Evacuation in Brownsville

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HAHA... watch for pelicans when flashing. LOL.


that's funny...im sure there will be a couple of other 'things' flying tomorrow....I thought Texas used contraflow evacs.?
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#6558 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:04 pm

:uarrow: :uarrow:

About the Pelicans if you don't see any that is a BAD sign. Birds and wildlife can "sense" an approaching hurricane fairly well.
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#6559 Postby galvestontx13 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:06 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:well there is always this option..

i posted last night when i came .. its simulated radar

from the WRF

http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mmbpll ... te_1h.html

i would say its doing a pretty good job.. so far



That is exactley what I see dolly doing. which isnt good. at least it will be shallow water and she will be draggin.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6560 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:08 pm

JPmia wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Evacuation in Brownsville

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HAHA... watch for pelicans when flashing. LOL.


that's funny...im sure there will be a couple of other 'things' flying tomorrow....I thought Texas used contraflow evacs.?



I believe that is the replacement Isabella causeway bridge. A few years ago a tug pushing barges had an issue and hit the bridge, collapsing a section and killing several motorists. Anyway, those are people from Padre Island leaving, not the city of Brownsville, if I'm not mistaken.
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