ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

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#6801 Postby mattpetre » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:19 pm

What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?
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#6802 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:19 pm

wx247 wrote:
fact789 wrote:TS force winds now reaching Brownsville.


Highest winds I have seen are 30 mph. Where are they reporting this?


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#6803 Postby wx247 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:21 pm

Those numbers are just estimates though... right? Ground reports I have seen are 20-30 mph sustained at this time.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6804 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:21 pm

Cape Verde wrote:There's talk about putting a wind farm facility on either the King Ranch or the Kenedy Ranch, I forget which. Even though environmentalists claim to love renewable energy, they've successfully blocked it so far even though it's on private property.

It would have been interesting to see how much electricity the windmills would have generated from Dolly.

No, they would've turned off the windmills by now. Once the wind gets beyond a certain level the windmills shut down automatically anyway.
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#6805 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:21 pm

mattpetre wrote:What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?


If that happens I will eat my cap and shoes.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6806 Postby Cape Verde » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:22 pm

I guess on the bright side, this will do wonders for the quail population with all the moisture. Too bad I think we'll see major damage to the colonias. They're really not much better housing than you'd find in rural Guatemala. A step down below a very old mobile home.
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#6807 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:25 pm

wx247 wrote:Those numbers are just estimates though... right? Ground reports I have seen are 20-30 mph sustained at this time.


Those numbers represent the maximum radii of winds over marine locations (i.e, a relatively frictionless surface). They're not valid over land. Even so, those wind range rings aren't boundaries, the just indicate that the TS force winds can extend out that far over water only.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6808 Postby MGC » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:25 pm

Looks like some dry air got into the circulation on the east side. Impressive convection in the west eyewall though. Look for Dolly to slowly deepen to night. Not sure if she will deepen up till landfall though. At least there should be some good video of landfall tomorrow during the morning. Hopefully Dolly does go in north of Brownville, makes a huge difference which side of the eye you are on wind damage wise.......MGC
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#6809 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:25 pm

Yep wxman57 looks like they will take the western quadrant of the eyewall, I'd guess hurricane force winds would get that far inland so could be some pretty bad damage there.

TS force winds don't look too be far away from land now at least in the gusts anyway, sustained winds probably a touch further out to sea closer to the center.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6810 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:26 pm

another view..


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#6811 Postby Cape Verde » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:27 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:No, they would've turned off the windmills by now. Once the wind gets beyond a certain level the windmills shut down automatically anyway.


Dang. I was hoping they'd generate so much power they'd be giving it away.
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#6812 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:27 pm

Anyone know when the NHC will activate the media pool?
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6813 Postby cpdaman » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:28 pm

nice pic Aric

also us poor folk's radar is also seeing that dry spot on the east side of the center filling in with developing bands ..... crikey!

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes

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i think based on above radar trends the time frame for RI is possibly highest now
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6814 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:32 pm

cpdaman wrote:nice pic Aric

also us poor folk's radar is also seeing that dry spot on the east side of the center filling in with developing bands ..... crikey!

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes



latest trend for the last half hours is interesting as the that dry slot is filling in and the core or small eye is much more defined ... with a small ring of convection beginning to take shape
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#6815 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:36 pm

I think that band may have been there all the time to the east of the center its just the radar couldn't see it till it got closer to the site and now thats the case its becoming obvious again.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6816 Postby cpdaman » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:37 pm

i have harped on the poor south outflow all day put to me it has been improving in last two hours
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6817 Postby ekal » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:37 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
cpdaman wrote:nice pic Aric

also us poor folk's radar is also seeing that dry spot on the east side of the center filling in with developing bands ..... crikey!

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes



latest trend for the last half hours is interesting as the that dry slot is filling in and the core or small eye is much more defined ... with a small ring of convection beginning to take shape


That "dry slot" may actually be filled with heavy precipitation that is too far from the radar to be detected. In fact, I think those bands you see "developing" now were always present --just out of range.
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#6818 Postby Cryomaniac » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:38 pm

mattpetre wrote:What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?


That sounds like massive scaremongering on his part.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6819 Postby cpdaman » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:38 pm

ekal let's hope so
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6820 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:39 pm

Looks like it's intensifying in a hurry.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-rgb.html

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