ATL: Invest 97L in Central Atlantic

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#121 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:39 am

Gustywind wrote:Any models on that jhamps10???


some of the models did not show a quick recurve, you can go to the models thread for 97L for that info. I checked last night and the CMC was the main one on it heading towards the islands, but it's a tossup right now on what really happens.
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#122 Postby Gustywind » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:48 am

jhamps10 wrote:
Gustywind wrote:Any models on that jhamps10???


some of the models did not show a quick recurve, you can go to the models thread for 97L for that info. I checked last night and the CMC was the main one on it heading towards the islands, but it's a tossup right now on what really happens.

Ok tkanks, :) i apologize, i forget that we have the models thread on it (97L) :oops:. Yeah we should wait and see what really happens...
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#123 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:51 am

I am more interested in the wave coming behind this one. The 12z GFS shows it trying to develop as it heads towards the islands in 5-8 days. You can check out the latest on this second wave in the following thread...

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=102072
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Re: ATL: Invest 97L in East Atlantic

#124 Postby Hurricaneman13 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:26 pm

CMC takes this system out to sea near Bermuda as a fairly strong tropical cyclone.
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Re: ATL: Invest 97L in East Atlantic

#125 Postby cooter » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:37 pm

When you guys say recurve what do you mean? What islands? The model on the NHC has it taking a curve to the NE. Do you think that it will stay headed westward towards the caribean? Seams like it is traveling pretty fast. Sorry still learning.
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#126 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:41 pm

Cooter, it's way too early. We must wait until the system develops or not. If it develops, then talk we can talk about the possible track. It's too early.
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Re: ATL: Invest 97L in East Atlantic

#127 Postby cooter » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:43 pm

I guess I will just have to wait and see. Interesting though.
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#128 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:45 pm

The only true at the moment is that as the system remains weak, it will move westward. If it intensifies, then the track should turn more NW. Outside from that, it's just the game of wait and see.
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#129 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:49 pm

It's still several days from developing due to the cooler water.
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Re: ATL: Invest 97L in East Atlantic

#130 Postby xironman » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:56 pm

The Quikscat is a bit old, but it seems to show the feature to the south http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/dataimages21/cur/zooms/WMBas32.png
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Re: ATL: Invest 97L in East Atlantic

#131 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:57 pm

561
ABNT20 KNHC 231756
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT WED JUL 23 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON HURRICANE
DOLLY...CENTERED ABOUT 35 MILES EAST OF BROWNSVILLE TEXAS.

A LARGE TROPICAL WAVE IS LOCATED OVER THE FAR EASTERN ATLANTIC...A
FEW HUNDRED MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS...AND IS MOVING
WESTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH. DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS NOT
EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE

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#132 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:01 pm

Interesting xironman if that is the center then it has dropped WSW in the last 12-18hrs.
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Re: ATL: Invest 97L in East Atlantic

#133 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:42 pm

ATCF best track latest update this afternoon for 97L. It has gone down a little in latitud,from 17n,when it emerged Africa,to now 15.4n.

AL, 97, 2008072318, , BEST, 0, 154N, 302W, 20, 1010, DB, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 120, 25, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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#134 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:57 pm

interesting, take a look at the overview map of the invest at the top of the page. Notice that ever since the CV islands, it has been on a near constant WSW track with the last track post somewhere in the 15N range. With it continuing this WSW track possibly that very well could help to develop this a bit quicker since warmer waters should lay ahead if it goes below 14.5 IIRC???? Pro mets could help me out on that aspect. but it is something to keep an eye on as well as the wave still over Africa which has it's own thread in TT.
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#135 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:08 pm

jhamps10 wrote:interesting, take a look at the overview map of the invest at the top of the page. Notice that ever since the CV islands, it has been on a near constant WSW track with the last track post somewhere in the 15N range. With it continuing this WSW track possibly that very well could help to develop this a bit quicker since warmer waters should lay ahead if it goes below 14.5 IIRC???? Pro mets could help me out on that aspect. but it is something to keep an eye on as well as the wave still over Africa which has it's own thread in TT.


Look farther up this thread when 97L was barely off of Africa a couple of days ago. I explained why a WSW track was likely. :wink:

That is why I explained why we should not assume a recurve just yet -- of course I am wondering if 97L will even develop anyway.
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#136 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:11 pm

Well yep its heading south of west at the moment but its still way north of where most waves would be at this point and needs to continue to head WSW for quite some time yet if we are not to assume recurve.
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#137 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:02 pm

Cyclenall at 7:45 pm ET yesterday wrote:I can't see this forming in the next 120 hours, I'm not thrilled with it like I was days ago.

99.75 hours left until it has the chance to become a TC in my mind. The NHC's statement "DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS" is in line with my prediction now.
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#138 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:11 pm

Looking back at historical tracks, if it gets below 15N then its chances of recurving become less.
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#139 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:20 pm

True gatorcane and more importantly the further wes ti can get withut doing anything the better as Dolly showed very neatly.
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#140 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:09 pm

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The bursts produced by the system is keeping it alive.
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