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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#121 Postby inda_iwall » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:37 am

It has really blown up in convection this morning. Cant believe everyone scoffed with their noses up at us who just asked some questions about possibilities, well, can we ask again? Is this going to become something? Whats its deal out there?
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#122 Postby Sabanic » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:38 am

If nothing else it definitely looks interesting this morning
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#123 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:41 am

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#124 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:41 am

If there was anything near the surface, I doubt Venice-Boothville would have a West wind North of the blob.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#125 Postby ronjon » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:46 am

Mid-Level center near 27.5N-89W. I don't see anything working down to the surface yet.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-vis.html
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#126 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:46 am

If it was at the surface, shallow steering would be straight inland. If it is mid-level, 850 to 500 mb mean steering is slightly West of due North, but again inland.


Quiet week coming up in the tropics. It'll get busy again, in my unofficial opinion, just not right away.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#127 Postby ColdFusion » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:06 am

Well at first glance it sure is interesting. Went from nothing to a nice little ball of convection pretty quickly didnt it. I'll keep a vis loop open on the desktop today just to watch what happens to it. Producing some good downpours around downtown NOLA at the moment.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#128 Postby Sanibel » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:09 am

The shape is obvious. If it's still here today from yesterday there's something to it.
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#129 Postby freeroam » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:31 am

The "blob" sure looks to have grown from last night. We are getting a nice breeze and some rain here in New Orleans. I will also keep a eye on this one. This reminds me of a night my husband and I went to bed with a low hanging out in the gulf and woke up in the morning with a stong TS. I can't remember the name but I think the year was 2000. That tought me a valuable lesson about writing things off in the gulf.
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#130 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:33 am

Sanibel wrote:The shape is obvious. If it's still here today from yesterday there's something to it.



If we had surface winds from the East on the coast, or steering didn't suggest it goes inland today or tonight, I'd be really fired up.

If that had enough time to sit and blow up storms over warm water, it would probably develop. But the lack of an East wind shows it doesn't already have a low level circulation, and its time over water is limited.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#131 Postby N2Storms » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:39 am

[quote="Ed Mahmoud"][quote="Sanibel"]The shape is obvious. If it's still here today from yesterday there's something to it.[/quote]


If we had surface winds from the East on the coast, or steering didn't suggest it goes inland today or tonight, I'd be really fired up.

If that had enough time to sit and blow up storms over warm water, it would probably develop. But the lack of an East wind shows it doesn't already have a low level circulation, and its time over water is limited.[/quote]


I don't know how much impact, if any this would have on it but last night Mr. "Good News", Dr. Lyons mentioned that Thursday another front would dig down to the Gulf...
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#132 Postby fwbbreeze » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:44 am

I don't know how much impact, if any this would have on it but last night Mr. "Good News", Dr. Lyons mentioned that Thursday another front would dig down to the Gulf...


This is from an early morning AFD out of Mobile, AL. It lends credence to what Dr. Lyons said.

.LONG TERM...(WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY)DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE
FLOWING NORTH ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF HIGH
PRESSURE WILL ENSURE THAT SCATTERED TO AT TIMES NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE THE MID WEEK PATTERN. PRECIPITABLE WATER
VALUES OVER TWO INCHES THROUGH THE WEEK IN CONJUNCTION WITH WEAK
DISTURBANCES MOVING EAST IN THE MID LEVEL FLOW WILL ENHANCE THE
CONVECTION IN THE HEAT OF THE AFTERNOONS...PRODUCING LOCALIZED AREAS
OF VERY HEAVY DOWNPOURS AT TIMES. NOT MUCH OF A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE
CENTER SHOWING UP UNTIL THE WEEKEND. BY THE WEEKEND THE GFS DOES
DEPICT A WEAK SURFACE LOW DRIFTING SOUTHWESTERLY INTO THE AREA FROM
THE NORTHEAST.
THIS WOULD KEEP PRECIPITATION CHANCES AROUND
CLIMATOLOGY FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR...WHICH IS AROUND 40 PERCENT.
HAVE BACKED OFF JUST A BIT ON THE HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST FOR
LATER IN THE WEEK AND INCREASED THE OVERNIGHT LOWS A TAD DUE TO THE
GFS`S PERSISTENCE IN SHOWING MORE RAIN AND CLOUDS LATER THIS WEEK.
/11

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mob/productview ... &version=0
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#133 Postby Kludge » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:52 am

N2Storms wrote:I don't know how much impact, if any this would have on it but last night Mr. "Good News", Dr. Lyons mentioned that Thursday another front would dig down to the Gulf...


Sorry if I'm drifting off topic, but I'm so glad to see that someone else shares my opinion about Mr. Good News. Meteorologists shouldn't editorialize about weather conditions; when they say things like, "there's no rain headed this way, so that's good news", I'm sure the area farmers wouldn't agree. It's one thing to find good news in the fact that a storm won't bring destruction to an area...but when he said yesterday that it was good news that this "blob" would likely dissipate [before bringing much needed rain to some areas that really need it], I didn't share his joy.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#134 Postby Category 5 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:55 am

Sanibel wrote:The shape is obvious. If it's still here today from yesterday there's something to it.


Resembles Danny 1997.

It appears it's going to run out of time.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#135 Postby boca » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:57 am

Category 5 wrote:
Sanibel wrote:The shape is obvious. If it's still here today from yesterday there's something to it.


Resembles Danny 1997.

It appears it's going to run out of time.


It sure does I think Danny hit the Mobile area.
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#136 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:02 am

If it was another 200 or so miles to the south it might have a chance, but it is going to run out of warm water here shortly as the flow around the ridge moves in.

Still should bring some beneficial rain to Eastern LA, S. Miss, S. Alabama and the Florida Panhandle with the surge of deep tropical moisture and PW values climbing above 2".
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Re: Gulf of Mexico area

#137 Postby Category 5 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:03 am

boca wrote:
Category 5 wrote:
Sanibel wrote:The shape is obvious. If it's still here today from yesterday there's something to it.


Resembles Danny 1997.

It appears it's going to run out of time.


It sure does I think Danny hit the Mobile area.


It actually made a few landfalls. Empire LA (65kts) Fort Morgan AL (70kts) and Mullet Point AL (65kts).

Source: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1997danny.html
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#138 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:05 am

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Nice blob but nothing more currectly.
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#139 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:06 am

Does this have a center of circulation of any kind? If so, then I'd put 98L on this...
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#140 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:07 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Does this have a center of circulation of any kind? If so, then I'd put 98L on this...


No center of circulation is present.
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