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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#261 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:31 pm

Good afternoon,

I'm surprised that Invest 98L has not been upgraded to tropical depression status since QuikSCAT found a well-developed LLC and the system was developing banding features while mantaining an organized area of convection. QuikSCAT also showed areas where the winds were around 30 knots. I undertand that the system will be moving over cooler waters and that it may dissipate in a few days due to the low SST and dry environment.

Is there a specific reason(s) why the National Hurricane Center feels the system shouldn't have been upgraded?

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Sandy: Thanks for yur e-mail.

In the opinion of the hurricane specialists, the system was not a tropical depression and was forecast to weaken. That is exactly what has occurred, and currently ahs a low probability of further development.

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#262 Postby MGC » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:36 pm

98L like the previous invest emerged too far north off the coast to develope.....MGC
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#263 Postby Category 5 » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:40 pm

Mecklenburg wrote:
kurtpage wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:This season is starting to remind of last season with almost
everything "poofing" out on us... If it's not the sal, it's the dry air, if it's not the dry air, then it's something else... I know folks will say, wait until august or september, but last year we waited, and waited, and waited, and nothing.....



Nothing? We had TWO cat 5 hurricanes last year...

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the tracks looks pretty boring... yeah this season will be like 2007... every good wave will go poof.... and i hate it when that happens


A typical bias "if it doesn't obliterate a part of the U.S it's boring" statement. Tell the families of the over 100 people that Hurricane Felix killed that the track was boring. Thats in my opinion an incredibly insensitive statement. You need to start thinking before you post because this wouldn't be the first time.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#264 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:47 pm

2007 season was an impressive season in my eyes. Sure, there were busts, but there were busts in 2005 too. Two Category 5 hurricanes forming within weeks and making landfall as them. 2005 didn't have that for sure! Also, Humberto and Lorenzo formed from tropical depression to hurricanes in 24 hours. 2007 was a spread out season like 2003. In fact 2007 was like 2003. Both had early starts and storms forming after November 30th with Olga in December. Texas had Erin and Humberto making landfall on the Upper Texas Coast, like in 2003 with Claudette and Grace.

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#265 Postby Category 5 » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:49 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:2007 season was quite a season in my eyes. Two Category 5 hurricanes forming within weeks and making landfall as them. 2005 didn't have that for sure! Also, Humberto and Lorenzo formed from tropical depression to hurricanes in 24 hours. 2007 was a spread out season like 2003. In fact 2007 was like 2003. Texas had Erin and Humberto making landfall on the Upper Texas Coast, like in 2003 with Claudette and Grace.


In fact it was the first time on record.
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#266 Postby mf_dolphin » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:50 pm

All right folks. The matter has been taken care of. Let's quit piling on and get on with the thread's subject. Thanks
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#267 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:53 pm

I don't think 98L will form. I still will keep an eye on it though. You never know.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#268 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:22 pm

SAL monster?
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#269 Postby abajan » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:27 pm

98L looks awful! From the looks of things, it might not even be there tomorrow. And to think that just a few hours ago it seemed on the verge to becoming a storm. Cold water = death!
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#270 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:31 pm

A small ball of convection has refired.

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#271 Postby Jason_B » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:36 pm

Impressive looking thunderstorm it's got tonight. :lol:
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#272 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:16 pm

Thats just pitiful! :lol:
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#273 Postby blp » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:11 am

SAL does not look bad right now.
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... split.html

SST's look to be the problem till at least 40W if it stays at the higher latitude.
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1 ... 1atsst.png
https://oceanography.navy.mil/legacy/we ... 8/0-0-10/0
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#274 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:47 am

I dont think this has much chance at developing until about 40w unless it loses latitude
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#275 Postby stevetampa33614 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:13 am

This thing is toast

Its still July,

NEXT!
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#276 Postby Mecklenburg » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:59 am

why do these recent waves develop LLC at such higher latitudes? grrr
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#277 Postby stevetampa33614 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:07 am

you want it too develop?


Hurricanes arent cool.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#278 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:18 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:you want it too develop?
Hurricanes arent cool.


Really?? Most here including myself are fascinated with hurricanes. It would have been nice to have 98L turn into a cane and chug across the open Atlantic. Nobody wants destruction, but a cane in the open Atlantic is good with me. As far as 98L goes, easy come easy go I guess.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#279 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:41 am

178
ABNT20 KNHC 311136
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT THU JUL 31 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE VICINITY OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS
MOVING TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 15 TO 20 MPH. SHOWER ACTIVITY WITH
THIS SYSTEM IS GRADUALLY DIMINISHING...AND TROPICAL CYCLONE
FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED HERE OR ELSEWHERE DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER FRANKLIN

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/tropical ... c/outlook/
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#280 Postby stevetampa33614 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:09 am

Blown_away wrote:
stevetampa33614 wrote:you want it too develop?
Hurricanes arent cool.


Really?? Most here including myself are fascinated with hurricanes. It would have been nice to have 98L turn into a cane and chug across the open Atlantic. Nobody wants destruction, but a cane in the open Atlantic is good with me. As far as 98L goes, easy come easy go I guess.


Well I guess putting it that way, yes its ok. But as far as landfalling canes, If I were president, I would start up a billion dollar nasa sized program to stop them with Science. And yes they most certainly be stopped. Weather it be atmospheric processors kicking out massive SAL or seeding the ocean in front with dry ice. There is a way. The theories are all out there.
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