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#281 Postby Gustywind » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:26 am

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AXNT20 KNHC 311043
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 AM EDT THU JUL 31 2008

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN SECTIONS
OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST
FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED
ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...WEATHER
OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 0600 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY
THROUGH 1015 UTC.

...TROPICAL WAVES...



AN ATLANTIC OCEAN TROPICAL WAVE JUST HAS PASSED OVER THE TOP
OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS SOUTH OF 22N. A 1008 MB LOW PRESSURE
CENTER IS ALONG THE WAVE NEAR 17N25W. POSSIBLE SHOWERS ARE FROM
10N TO 24N BETWEEN 10W AND 20W. CONDITIONS DO NOT APPEAR TO BE
CONDUCIVE FOR SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS.
$$ MT
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#282 Postby kurtpage » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:51 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:
Blown_away wrote:
stevetampa33614 wrote:you want it too develop?
Hurricanes arent cool.


Really?? Most here including myself are fascinated with hurricanes. It would have been nice to have 98L turn into a cane and chug across the open Atlantic. Nobody wants destruction, but a cane in the open Atlantic is good with me. As far as 98L goes, easy come easy go I guess.


Well I guess putting it that way, yes its ok. But as far as landfalling canes, If I were president, I would start up a billion dollar nasa sized program to stop them with Science. And yes they most certainly be stopped. Weather it be atmospheric processors kicking out massive SAL or seeding the ocean in front with dry ice. There is a way. The theories are all out there.



I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Segal, or Chuck Noris is playing the lead role in your Hollywood movie....


:roll: :roll:
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#283 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:02 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:
Blown_away wrote:
stevetampa33614 wrote:you want it too develop?
Hurricanes arent cool.


Really?? Most here including myself are fascinated with hurricanes. It would have been nice to have 98L turn into a cane and chug across the open Atlantic. Nobody wants destruction, but a cane in the open Atlantic is good with me. As far as 98L goes, easy come easy go I guess.


Well I guess putting it that way, yes its ok. But as far as landfalling canes, If I were president, I would start up a billion dollar nasa sized program to stop them with Science. And yes they most certainly be stopped. Weather it be atmospheric processors kicking out massive SAL or seeding the ocean in front with dry ice. There is a way. The theories are all out there.


Geeez, haven't we disrupted mother nature enough, now you want to kick up massive SAL and dump tons of foreign agents into the ocean and atmosphere. How about we build homes to handle hurricane winds and stop building on beach dunes.
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#284 Postby Gustywind » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:07 am

To convergence Zone and Mecklenburg, enjoy it and tkanks to you Category 5


Hummm very interresting post, pretty pertinent , you make sense, ( Category 5),
i like it like that :D and you can add Martinica too, tell the families of Martinica how shocked they were? Martinica since Iris in 1995 was blessed (if my head does not deceive me :cheesy: :ggreen: ), because they do not experienced any serious episode since Iris 1995 and i'd prefer to say since DAVID in 1978, so 30 years afters they were dealing with a monster....DEAN cat 2 close to 3, 3 when it has just crossed Martinica ( 3 hours after!!!), and for me in Guadeloupe it was definitely something too dangerous here....

I won't forget the huge waves 5 or 6 meters sweeping all the beaches especially at Gosier la Datcha where i'm swimming everyday, that's was a nigtmare for all, and some of the fishermans have lost theirs boats underestimating the power of the waves. They were tkinking that Dean was a fish in spite of the good weather predictions, or it was ghost alerts but most of them were wrong , they decided for some to let theirs boats on just far away on the beach with the result that you imagine....

Nothing was BORING in2007 for us in a little island after MR DEAN and how lucky we are with " a coool cat 2 cane" finishing his trip at " a small cat 3 cane"after crossing Martinica :spam: so it can't be BORING for the east CARIB :spam: !!!

So i'm glad proud when i'm reading this type of reply, i congratulate you :D :wink: :). And for everbody if possible ( but we're are humans :cheesy: ) we need to start thinking before posting any replies, trying to weight the pros and the cons that's not an easy job, but i'm very confident, here we have pertinents people interresting God blessed you, and all the very best for each other.Nice regards from Gustywind :) :) :)
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#285 Postby stevetampa33614 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:10 am

kurtpage wrote:I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Segal, or Chuck Noris is playing the lead role in your Hollywood movie....


:roll: :roll:
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You think what i said is fantasy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury

Anyway back to 98L
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#286 Postby Cryomaniac » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:19 am



Except that it didn't work.
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#287 Postby Chacor » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:19 am

Which is gone, as there's a DEACTIVATE file on ATCF.
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#288 Postby Cryomaniac » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:19 am

Chacor wrote:Which is gone, as there's a DEACTIVATE file on ATCF.


Season cancel :lol:

/sarcasm
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#289 Postby Category 5 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:20 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:you want it too develop?


Hurricanes arent cool.


Oh they are, just not when they hit land.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#290 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:32 am

well 98L has bent towards the West as expected...took a little longer than I thought but it seems it has stopped gaining signficant lattitude. Looking at the synoptics it should head in the general direction of W to WNW albeit without convection until it hits about 40W where SSTs are high enough. AT that point look for convection to come back with some possible slow organization.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#291 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:44 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:
kurtpage wrote:I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Segal, or Chuck Noris is playing the lead role in your Hollywood movie....
:roll: :roll:
[/quote]
You think what i said is fantasy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury
Anyway back to 98L[/quote]

"Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act by the EPA, silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant, and as a toxic pollutant."

Great, lets spend millions to distribute and dump tons of this into the environment.

http://www.ranches.org/cloudSeedingHarmful.htm
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#292 Postby Sanibel » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:51 am

There's another thin wave with good form pulling off Africa behind it. I suppose if these continue in September they'll start 'sticking'.
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#293 Postby Grease Monkey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:58 am

stevetampa33614 wrote:You think what i said is fantasy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury


I think we did enough with so called science. We'll end up doing more damage to ourselves in the end. Let nature run it's course (just be prepared), and we need to stop being ignorant and playing creator of the universe. Hurricanes have their purpose. They weren't some failed mutation that we need to some how stop.
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#294 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:16 am

Still pretty well-defined and on its Wward journey..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html
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#295 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:23 am

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#296 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:21 am

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#297 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:28 am

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products


98L's low-level circulation is clearly visible on this Central Atlantic NHC image (far right-hand side of image). Now that is has moved farther west, we can track it with the more frequently updated NHC images. Note again how it has stopped gaining lattitude, as expected with a strong subtropical Azores ridge to the north that will keep it going west for several days across the Atlantic.

I estimate the current movement is due west or 270. I expect 98L to make a comeback in about 48-72 hours (especially once it cross 40W where SSTs are higher). In fact I give it a high likelyhood (greater than 50% chance it will make a comeback looking at the synoptic setup and could easily be our next named system.).

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L in Far Eastern Atlantic

#298 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:39 am

gatorcane wrote:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products


98L's low-level circulation is clearly visible on this Central Atlantic NHC image (far right-hand side of image). Now that is has moved farther west, we can track it with the more frequently updated NHC images. Note again how it has stopped gaining lattitude, as expected with a strong subtropical Azores ridge to the north that will keep it going west for several days across the Atlantic.

I estimate the current movement is due west or 270. I expect 98L to make a comeback in about 48-72 hours (especially once it cross 40W where SSTs are higher). In fact I give it a high likelyhood (greater than 50% chance it will make a comeback looking at the synoptic setup and could easily be our next named system.).

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yeah, as long as it maintains that circulation...this one is gonna have quite a battle to fight.
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#299 Postby stevetampa33614 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:52 am

Am I crazy or do I see an eye on that visual? :?:

edit more like a hole. sorry.
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#300 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:57 am

Here is a visible loop showing our our invest has made that west turn as forecasted and is racing west at 15-20mph...towards warmer SSTs:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-vis.html

You can see there is a chance it may start to move south of 270 or between W to WSW over the new couple of days and the forecast reasoning for 98L to stay on a west track for quite a while

I checked the wind shear tendency and it looks like some only marginally favorable upper-level winds are out ahead of 98L so slow and steady development is possible.

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