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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2081 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:46 pm

With the blow up over the center, not surprising pressure is dropping, winds will increase in the next couple of hours with the lapse time between pressure drop and wind speed..

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#2082 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:46 pm

This does NOT have that much better of a sat signature from earlier today

the deep convection is still quite disorganized and is showing no signs of organizing.
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#2083 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:47 pm

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#2084 Postby hwego7 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:49 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:This does NOT have that much better of a sat signature from earlier today

the deep convection is still quite disorganized and is showing no signs of organizing.
RADAR BANDING CONSISTENT WITH FL CENTER FIX POSITION. BAND CONVECTION HAS REDUCED, BUT ORGANIZATION HAS IMPROVED.

Recon is reporting the opposite, they are saying in the VDM that the organization has actually improved.
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#2085 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:51 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:This does NOT have that much better of a sat signature from earlier today

the deep convection is still quite disorganized and is showing no signs of organizing.


I have to disagree Derek, for the first time, convection is able to lift over the LLC, which is slowly tightening the center , with pressure gradually dropping, this is organizing...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2086 Postby Cape Verde » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:54 pm

It certainly looks better than it did this morning. Scroll back on this thread to about 7 am CDT and it's quite obvious.
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#2087 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:54 pm

Yeah but to be fair Derek isn't saying it hasn't improved just the presentation hasn't improved by THAT much really and I agree with him, sure its spurting out deep convection now and it is the organisation has improved a little but not by a huge deal
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2088 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:56 pm

Dr. Lyons on TWC, just said he thinks the pressure drop is partly related to the dinural pressure trend in the tropics. But he is concerned that is slowed down. It gives up more to time "spin up" before landfall.
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#2089 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:57 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2090 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:57 pm

I dont jump on too many pro mets...A few I've questioned but they know way more than the average poster.

Instead of "getting his act together or here he comes RI", Eddie has added some width/length, cloud coverage.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2091 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:58 pm

A remark from the latest VDM.

RADAR BANDING CONSISTENT WITH FL CENTER FIX POSITION. BAND CONVECTION HAS REDUCED, BUT ORGANIZATION HAS IMPROVED.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2092 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:59 pm

Thunder44 wrote:Dr. Lyons on TWC, just said he thinks the pressure drop is partly related to the dinural pressure trend in the tropics. But he is concerned that is slowed down. It gives up more to time "spin up" before landfall.


Slowing down is all the more reason why I think it's going to head more towards LA, than Texas.
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#2093 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:59 pm

Very interesting Hurakan, I suppose that may mean either two things, either recon missed the true center or it has jogged SSW in the last hour or so, either one is interesting to note
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#2094 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:00 pm

A little off topic but what Edouard do you feel was more impressive the 2002 one or this one. I feel the 2002 one had deeper convection for time over the LLC, but this one has better banding and less shear overall to deal with.

Anyways this is much better then it was earlier today. You have 'great' outflow over the east and southeast quads. With 20 percent "eye" feature.
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#2095 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:00 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#2096 Postby kurtpage » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:01 pm

KWT wrote:Very interesting Hurakan, I suppose that may mean either two things, either recon missed the true center or it has jogged SSW in the last hour or so, either one is interesting to note



Actually the top 999 reading was the last pass through....
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#2097 Postby Category 5 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:01 pm

americanrebel wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:so far 999mb ..


Come on drop another 4 mb. LOL

I know I have dry humor.


A dry post more like.

Anyway, if you look on the last frame you can see the latest flare up.

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#2098 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:01 pm

KWT wrote:Very interesting Hurakan, I suppose that may mean either two things, either recon missed the true center or it has jogged SSW in the last hour or so, either one is interesting to note


Other way around. The most northern one is the most recent. It was a bad VDM because it hasn't jogged NNE.
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#2099 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:02 pm

RL3AO wrote:
KWT wrote:Very interesting Hurakan, I suppose that may mean either two things, either recon missed the true center or it has jogged SSW in the last hour or so, either one is interesting to note


Other way around. The most northern one is the most recent. It was a bad VDM because it hasn't jogged NNE.


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#2100 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:03 pm

very iteresting ........

the last recon here

225800 2925N 09142W 8431 01578 0118 +158 +158 087052 053 039 000 00

53kt at 91.2N thats on the coast!! well away from the center.. north quad
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