Canadian bus travel horror

[tropicana]

Where was that article from?

I agree with the conclusion. Those poor people are going to have some major emotional issues to deal with down the road.

that was an oversight, since i was in a hurry yesterday morning, that article came from the Toronto Star.
-justin-

[Chacor]

Bus murder suspect says 'kill me'

A man accused of beheading a fellow bus passenger in Canada has pleaded "please kill me", as he was asked by a judge if he wanted a lawyer.

Vince Weiguang Li has been ordered by the court to undergo psychiatric tests.

Mr Li, 40, is accused of second-degree murder after he allegedly stabbed and decapitated 22-year-old Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus on 31 July.

A prosecutor told the court that Mr Li was seen eating pieces of his victim and had body parts found in his pocket.

Tuesday's court hearing in Manitoba had earlier been adjourned to give Mr Li time to consult a lawyer.

Asked by the judge after the recess whether he wanted a lawyer, Mr Li was overheard by reporters and court officials saying "please kill me".

Police have suggested no motive for the attack last Wednesday, which happened in front of terrified passengers as the bus travelled through a desolate stretch of Canada's vast prairies.

They reported seeing Mr Li, a former church custodian, stab Mr McLean, who was sitting next to him, 50 or 60 times before cutting off his head.

Prosecutor Joyce Dalmyn revealed grisly details of the attack as she argued for a psychiatric evaluation for the accused.

She said Mr Li had severed the victim's head with a large knife and then carried it up and down the bus, brandishing it to passengers and taunting police.

He was also observed "cutting body parts from the victim and eating those body parts", she said. A plastic bag later found in his pocket by police contained his victim's ear, nose and part of his mouth.

Ms Dalmyn said Mr Li had refused to leave the bus, shouting at police officers: "I have to stay on the bus forever."

Witnesses have reported that Mr Li did not appear to know the sleeping victim and that the attack began without warning.

Mr Li, who immigrated to Canada from China four years ago, is being kept in custody in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

Church pastor Tom Castor, who helped hire Mr Li after he immigrated, told the AP news agency that the suspect never showed any sign of anger or emotional problems.

"He seemed like a person who was happy to have a job, was committed to doing it well and didn't stand out in any way (in terms of) having anger issues or having any other issues," Castor was quoted as saying.

Mr Li was also vetted by church officials and his references were checked. He did not have a criminal record and there did not appear to be any other signs of problematic or troubled past.

If evidence shows the attacker was mentally ill and did not understand what he was doing, criminal charges may not stand up, Fred Shane, a Manitoba forensic psychiatrist, told the Reuters news agency.

The judge ordered that Mr Li be sent for psychiatric evaluation before his next scheduled court appearance on 8 September.

Meanwhile, Reuters reports, the Greyhound bus company has been scrambling to remove all traces of an advertising campaign which used the slogan: "There's a reason you've never heard of bus rage."

The campaign was supposed to have ended but a spokeswoman said some billboards had been found still in place.

[Derek Ortt]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

Killing him (even by drawing, hanging and quartering him on primetime television) is too light of a lunishment. Give him life in a Sheriff Joe type of prison (i.e. concentration camp). Give him moldy food and dirty water every day and make him work hard labor for 16 hours per day. And let him live with the fact that one of his loved ones was executed due to his inconceivable actions.

Kiling him is what he wants... so lets not give it to him

[Ed Mahmoud]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

Killing him (even by drawing, hanging and quartering him on primetime television) is too light of a lunishment. Give him life in a Sheriff Joe type of prison (i.e. concentration camp). Give him moldy food and dirty water every day and make him work hard labor for 16 hours per day. And let him live with the fact that one of his loved ones was executed due to his inconceivable actions.

Kiling him is what he wants... so lets not give it to him

He's in Canada. I think they go for European style easy justice. Probably a free man in a decade or so.

[Cyclenall]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones
...
And let him live with the fact that one of his loved ones was executed due to his inconceivable actions.

That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Punish a family member/loved one for something that wasn't their fault? Outrageous.

He's in Canada. I think they go for European style easy justice. Probably a free man in a decade or so.

I sure hope not. He should be at the very least locked up in a mental ward for the rest of his life, if not sent back to a Chinese prison.

[sunny]

A second degree murder charge/conviction wouldn't even get him the death penalty in our country. Clearly a very disturbed individual..................

[Brent]

Meanwhile, Reuters reports, the Greyhound bus company has been scrambling to remove all traces of an advertising campaign which used the slogan: "There's a reason you've never heard of bus rage."

Yikes.

[Ptarmigan]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

Killing him (even by drawing, hanging and quartering him on primetime television) is too light of a lunishment. Give him life in a Sheriff Joe type of prison (i.e. concentration camp). Give him moldy food and dirty water every day and make him work hard labor for 16 hours per day. And let him live with the fact that one of his loved ones was executed due to his inconceivable actions.

Kiling him is what he wants... so lets not give it to him

Derek, that's too easy. I thought you were hard on crime. Make him do hard labor with NO FOOD AND WATER in Siberia in the winter. Also, he should be impaled while doing hard labor for 24 hours with a wooden stake that is oiled and be kept alive as long as possible. He should be given drugs to make him feel the pain.

[Ptarmigan]

Fred Phelps is protesting Tim McLean's funeral.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=702577

[vbhoutex]

Fred Phelps is protesting Tim McLean's funeral.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=702577

It would be wonderful if they all showed up at one of these events and Canadian authorities could find a good reason to arrest them and put them behind bars and then deport them to the US and the US refuse to take them!!!!

[Ptarmigan]

It would be wonderful if they all showed up at one of these events and Canadian authorities could find a good reason to arrest them and put them behind bars and then deport them to the US and the US refuse to take them!!!!

It would be. Also, they say that God hates China because of the Sichuan earthquake and calls the Chinese government a bunch of idoloters would protest in China. I would like to see them protest in China. The government will throw them in prison and they are horrendous.

[vbhoutex]

It would be wonderful if they all showed up at one of these events and Canadian authorities could find a good reason to arrest them and put them behind bars and then deport them to the US and the US refuse to take them!!!!

It would be. Also, they say that God hates China because of the Sichuan earthquake and calls the Chinese government a bunch of idoloters would protest in China. I would like to see them protest in China. The government will throw them in prison and they are horrendous.

An even better solution!!!

[HurricaneBill]

Wait a minute, I thought Phelps isn't allowed to set foot in Canada because he burned a Canadian flag or something.

[Chacor]

Wait a minute, I thought Phelps isn't allowed to set foot in Canada because he burned a Canadian flag or something.

The article says "Mr. Phelps himself is not expected to be among the group headed to Canada, Ms. Phelps-Roper said."

All of Phelps' "church" are the ones who should be decapitated and eaten, not innocent people like MacLean.

[gtalum]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

Killing him (even by drawing, hanging and quartering him on primetime television) is too light of a lunishment. Give him life in a Sheriff Joe type of prison (i.e. concentration camp). Give him moldy food and dirty water every day and make him work hard labor for 16 hours per day. And let him live with the fact that one of his loved ones was executed due to his inconceivable actions.

Kiling him is what he wants... so lets not give it to him

Nobody will be executed. This is Canada. Canada has no death penalty.

As an aside, I'm shocked that even you are willing to see an innocent person punished for the actions of someone else. What exactly does that accomplish?

[gtalum]

He's in Canada. I think they go for European style easy justice. Probably a free man in a decade or so.

The lack of a death penalty does not equate to "easy justice". Have you seen a European prison? In general they make our prisons look like palaces. Further, they are better people who belong there in prison for life than we are. They are not nearly as lenient as we are about probation and early release programs.

[Derek Ortt]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

Killing him (even by drawing, hanging and quartering him on primetime television) is too light of a lunishment. Give him life in a Sheriff Joe type of prison (i.e. concentration camp). Give him moldy food and dirty water every day and make him work hard labor for 16 hours per day. And let him live with the fact that one of his loved ones was executed due to his inconceivable actions.

Kiling him is what he wants... so lets not give it to him

Nobody will be executed. This is Canada. Canada has no death penalty.

As an aside, I'm shocked that even you are willing to see an innocent person punished for the actions of someone else. What exactly does that accomplish?

maybe deterrence.

Also, if one had knowledge of an upcoming act, they would have additional incentive to stop the act by reporting the person to the authorities, instead of covering for them

[Jason_B]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

That was a joke, right? Because his relatives had nothing to do with this why should they be punished? That's crazy.

[Derek Ortt]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

That was a joke, right? Because his relatives had nothing to do with this why should they be punished? That's crazy.

No, I am not joking

It is what Israel does. If someone sets off a bomb somewhere, their family pays severely for it (often, their home is bulldozed at a minimum)

[Cyclenall]

maybe punish one of the killer's loved ones

That was a joke, right? Because his relatives had nothing to do with this why should they be punished? That's crazy.

No, I am not joking

It is what Israel does. If someone sets off a bomb somewhere, their family pays severely for it (often, their home is bulldozed at a minimum)

I doubt it would have been a deterrence for the killer on the bus in this case because he probably doesn't care at all about them either. The family would be hard to track in China anyways...