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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#821 Postby GreenSky » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:54 am

I know I have been reiterating that 92L might miss Florida, but then again it looks like it might track through the Herbert Box as a tropical storm...and you know what that means :eek:
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#822 Postby Cyclenall » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:00 am

I just had a massive Deja Vu when I got to the last post just now. I've seen this exact situation somewhere else before (TS Chris of 2006 is similar).

For the first time this 2008 season, the HWRF model is stronger then the GFDL!
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#823 Postby blp » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:01 am

Wow! Oh Carolina! The EURO has jumped on the bandwagon. I can't remember a EURO run this strong.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 8081400!!/
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#824 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:03 am

Wow that ECM is real impressive, also note the high to the north should force it back NW towards the end of the run, pretty much drift NW by the end of the run, not great for the Carolinas...looks more and more like Floyd!
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#825 Postby GreenSky » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:06 am

KWT wrote:Wow that ECM is real impressive, also note the high to the north should force it back NW towards the end of the run, pretty much drift NW by the end of the run, not great for the Carolinas...looks more and more like Floyd!


exactly...this year's upper level wind pattern is not going to be a repeat of 2004/2005!
We're back to the late 90's and the Carolina/Mid-Atlantic hurricane era has returned.
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#827 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:09 am

Euro stalls it off Florida right over the gulf stream.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#828 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:09 am

blp wrote:Wow! Oh Carolina! The EURO has jumped on the bandwagon. I can't remember a EURO run this strong.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 8081400!!/


WOW. I can't believe it's still there in TEN days. :eek:
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#829 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:10 am

Not just that Brent but also the fact its so strong in 10 days time as well :eek:
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#830 Postby blp » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:12 am

GreenSky wrote:
KWT wrote:Wow that ECM is real impressive, also note the high to the north should force it back NW towards the end of the run, pretty much drift NW by the end of the run, not great for the Carolinas...looks more and more like Floyd!


exactly...this year's upper level wind pattern is not going to be a repeat of 2004/2005!
We're back to the late 90's and the Carolina/Mid-Atlantic hurricane era has returned.


We need to see a few more runs before we can say that for sure. The one thing I remember from Floyd is that there was an awfully strong trough that really dug down to catch it. Also, acording to this EURO it needs to grab it down by Cuba and basically move it almost North. Interesting scenario.....
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#831 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:16 am

KWT wrote:Not just that Brent but also the fact its so strong in 10 days time as well :eek:


I don't think I've ever seen the Euro that strong in the long range like that. :eek:
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#832 Postby blp » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:18 am

Brent wrote:
KWT wrote:Not just that Brent but also the fact its so strong in 10 days time as well :eek:


I don't think I've ever seen the Euro that strong in the long range like that. :eek:


I made that same comment above.. impressive...
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#833 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:19 am

There have been other times the ECM has been that intense before, the most noteable being Katrina where it modelled a 920mb hurricane which on the resolution of the ECM is super impressive.
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#834 Postby Meso » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:22 am

See, now THAT'S what a major hurricane looks like on the EURO :) Almost all the models seem to be showing development to hurricane strength now. Though granted as it's been said many times before, wait for the system to become a depression and then look at the model runs, far likely to be more accurate. But with the way 92l looks it shouldn't be too long for that
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#835 Postby blp » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:22 am

KWT wrote:There have been other times the ECM has been that intense before, the most noteable being Katrina where it modelled a 920mb hurricane which on the resolution of the ECM is super impressive.



Yea, I probably missed that because I had no power for a week after Katrina hit Miami. Sure is impressive though. Timing is going to be so critical with this thing.
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#836 Postby Meso » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:35 am

CMC is likely very off, long range CMC is likely very very off.. But for interest' sake

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Thar in the gulf
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#837 Postby Meso » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:40 am

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Majority of the models turning the storm North
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#838 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:56 am

Even with the HWRF and GFDL it builds the ridge over the top and they would still either hook back into florida or plow in GA.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#839 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:04 am

deltadog03 wrote:Even with the HWRF and GFDL it builds the ridge over the top and they would still either hook back into florida or plow in GA.


that would be quite a turn back to the west based on the current runs
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#840 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:11 am

It is important to note that 92L will be moving south of some models within the short term.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8dlm1.html

I'm still not sold on a non-Florida threat down the road.
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