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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3341 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:20 am

Have you gone al fuerza to personally storm spot yet?


No,I am in the house dry as rain has started to fall.Also plenty of lightening in the distance.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3342 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:23 am

If current trends keep up I expect a depression at 5am.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3343 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:25 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:If current trends keep up I expect a depression at 5am.

I dont know. Without recon doing flights at that time, systems are almost never upgraded at 5am. But 11am seems likely, if not then, then 5pm.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3344 Postby GreenSky » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:27 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:If current trends keep up I expect a depression at 5am.

I dont know. Without recon doing flights at that time, systems are almost never upgraded at 5am. But 11am seems likely, if not then, then 5pm.


Given 92L's close proximity to land, I believe an earlier upgrade is due...maybe 2AM...if not, 5AM for sure, and 8AM latest
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#3345 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:28 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:If current trends keep up I expect a depression at 5am.

I dont know. Without recon doing flights at that time, systems are almost never upgraded at 5am. But 11am seems likely, if not then, then 5pm.



We have a southeast, east, northeast, east, northwest, west winds. Why wait for recon when you have surface sites showing it.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3346 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:28 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:If current trends keep up I expect a depression at 5am.

I dont know. Without recon doing flights at that time, systems are almost never upgraded at 5am. But 11am seems likely, if not then, then 5pm.


NOAA WP-3D flying as I prepare to go to bed...
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3347 Postby SapphireSea » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:30 am

LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3348 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:31 am

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:If current trends keep up I expect a depression at 5am.

I dont know. Without recon doing flights at that time, systems are almost never upgraded at 5am. But 11am seems likely, if not then, then 5pm.


NOAA WP-3D flying as I prepare to go to bed...

Well I wasnt sure that without the big hurricane hunter jets, whether they were looking for a closed llc, as opposed to just taking environment samples.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3349 Postby fci » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:31 am

Sanibel wrote:Betsy was strong even though it got turned around back south.


If we ever had another Betsy; the media and S2K would just about explode.
Up to threaten NC with watches issued, a stall, drift south and loop to cross Key Largo.
Southeast Florida was under a Hurricane Warning for 2 1/2 days.
It was a storm for the ages......
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3350 Postby GreenSky » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:32 am

FYI, a pro met in the analysis board said "FWIW it think its TS already and winds of 45-50 knots"-DTwxRisk
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3351 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:32 am

SapphireSea wrote:LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.

sapphire, in what state do you live?
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3352 Postby Fego » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:32 am

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Pressure continues to fall in San Juan,also west winds continue.

ASCA42 TJSJ 150510
RWRPR
PUERTO RICO/U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS HOURLY WEATHER ROUNDUP
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
100 AM AKDT FRI AUG 15 2008

PRZ001-004-150600-
PUERTO RICO

CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS
SAN JUAN LMM PTCLDY 81 75 83 W7 29.87F
PONCE PTCLDY 81 73 78 CALM 29.87F
$$

PRZ006-007-150600-
U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS

CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS
CHARLOTTE AMA LGT RAIN 79 75 89 SE16 29.89S
CHRISTIANSTED HVY RAIN 75 73 94 S6 29.92R VSB 1




Have you gone al fuerza to personally storm spot yet?


Edit to add: My Spanish could be on crack. My wife speaks it to our kids, mis suegros, who are Mexican, speak it, when I suspect they talk about me. I think "al fuerza' means "out doors", but I could way wrong.

Double edit- born in Tamilipaus, Mexico, but proud US citizens. My wife's uncle, Tio Fito, even votes Republican! Only one, but I'm still working on them.

Not getting any more political than that.


Heavy rain begining to fall... as for "al fuerza", in spanish would be "afuera".
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#3353 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:33 am

SapphireSea wrote:LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.



The system is refocusing at near 16.7/65.8. It will stay off shore.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3354 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:34 am

GreenSky wrote:FYI, a pro met in the analysis board said "FWIW it think its TS already and winds of 45-50 knots"-DTwxRisk

I dont know. Based on appearance that looks reasonable, but the surface feature isnt strong enough yet. In addition, the mlc is displaced slightly, but is beginning to catch up once again.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3355 Postby GreenSky » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:35 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
SapphireSea wrote:LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.



The system is refocusing at near 16.7/65.8. It will stay off shore.



What is its heading? 280, 290?
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3356 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:38 am

GreenSky wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
SapphireSea wrote:LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.



The system is refocusing at near 16.7/65.8. It will stay off shore.



What is its heading? 280, 290?


275-280. But it is just starting to become defined enough to track the last hour or so.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3357 Postby SapphireSea » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:38 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
SapphireSea wrote:LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.



The system is refocusing at near 16.7/65.8. It will stay off shore.



16.7N? That would keep it offshore if it goes 270 west. But I don't see anything there, unless you mean 18.7N. In which case you are right about the LLC. But the convection will interact with land unless it heads 280 or 290 WNW, and I don't really see it doing that just at this moment. Of course it may change.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3358 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:40 am

SapphireSea wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
SapphireSea wrote:LLC is still fairly displaced judging the assumed location just N of San Juan. While the 'weak' LLC may stay over water, it's MLC and convection will start to interact with PR and then the DR. I think it has some troubled time ahead of it. It also seems like the UL high is not going to move entirely in tandem, so shear might get the system in this case.



The system is refocusing at near 16.7/65.8. It will stay off shore.



16.7N? That would keep it offshore if it goes 270 west. But I don't see anything there, unless you mean 18.7N. In which case you are right about the LLC. But the convection will interact with land unless it heads 280 or 290 WNW, and I don't really see it doing that just at this moment. Of course it may change.



Yes 18.7
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3359 Postby blp » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:40 am

The consolidation around Vieques is that Mid Level?

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... A&loop=yes
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#3360 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:44 am

Dan Milham of News Channel 6 just assured everyone that there was nothing to worry about and that he'd be watching the models and tell us what we need to know.

Thank goodness for access to information. :)

Steve
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