ATL: Tropical Depression Fay

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4601 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:56 pm

hurricanej wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Its been overland for about 6-7 hours, I expect it will be moving back over water within the next 6-7 hours. Also the way the southern convection appears makes me believe that the system will likely keep moving westward. So between Jamaica and Cuba is looking slightly more likely, Dennis 2005 track.

That last part was just a guest on what could happen.


I believe it will move south of Cuba in some of the hottest surface waters in the Atlantic. I believe it could be possible for a landfall near where Dennis hit, but so far not going to put any money on it. It all comes down to track and does it move south of Cuba.

on the Dennis 05 track, do you think it could possibly make landfall in the same area, or are you just talking about in the Cuba/Jamaica area?
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#4602 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:57 pm

Wxman it has been a *long* time since the Greater Tampa Bay area has seen hurricane force winds. Even Elena stayed far enough away to prevent any winds higher than TS.

Climatology says NO to a West Coast of Florida hit.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4603 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:57 pm

wxman57 wrote:I think the NHC will nudge the track a little west on the next advisory, probably just grazing the western peninsula near Sarasota and Clearwater then inland into the far eastern panhandle. That should allow it to become a hurricane with a path that rakes the entire western peninsula. Of course, as we saw with Charley, only a tiny course change would make a tremendous difference in the prime impact area.

Do you think the westward trend will continue, or start locking in where they are now?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4604 Postby lonelymike » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:58 pm

Hey WX57 you still think this could past 85W? I believe you said the other day that the winds above would be blowing west to east? Thanks always appreciate your obs:)
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4605 Postby Windtalker1 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:59 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I think the NHC will nudge the track a little west on the next advisory, probably just grazing the western peninsula near Sarasota and Clearwater then inland into the far eastern panhandle. That should allow it to become a hurricane with a path that rakes the entire western peninsula. Of course, as we saw with Charley, only a tiny course change would make a tremendous difference in the prime impact area.

Do you think the westward trend will continue, or start locking in where they are now?


I think it will go back and forth all weekend with the end result up the middle of the state.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4606 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:00 pm

Of course I have a class at Eckerd College Thursday night on the ground floor.

IF this heads up the west coast of Florida, when would be the timeframe for largest impact in Tampa Bay?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4607 Postby jaxfladude » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:01 pm

wxman57 wrote:I think the NHC will nudge the track a little west on the next advisory, probably just grazing the western peninsula near Sarasota and Clearwater then inland into the far eastern panhandle. That should allow it to become a hurricane with a path that rakes the entire western peninsula. Of course, as we saw with Charley, only a tiny course change would make a tremendous difference in the prime impact area.


wxman57, does Fay mean that you will be working long, long hours again?

Hopefully you will get a break to eat and sleep during Fay!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4608 Postby storms in NC » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:03 pm

Windtalker1 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I think the NHC will nudge the track a little west on the next advisory, probably just grazing the western peninsula near Sarasota and Clearwater then inland into the far eastern panhandle. That should allow it to become a hurricane with a path that rakes the entire western peninsula. Of course, as we saw with Charley, only a tiny course change would make a tremendous difference in the prime impact area.

Do you think the westward trend will continue, or start locking in where they are now?


I think it will go back and forth all weekend with the end result up the middle of the state.


I will see this Fay in the Am. Maybe then I can see the center. I have never had trouble see the center. But I am having trouble with Fay Girl. So Good Night all. See ya around 5 AM :double: :double:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4609 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:03 pm

Big track shift since this morning. Has me under the gun but see it shifted more west again.


Always watch storms that burst while over land. Not what you want to see when you are downrange.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4610 Postby Rainband » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:13 pm

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#4611 Postby HurricaneQueen » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:14 pm

gatorcane wrote:Wxman it has been a *long* time since the Greater Tampa Bay area has seen hurricane force winds. Even Elena stayed far enough away to prevent any winds higher than TS.

Climatology says NO to a West Coast of Florida hit.


Gatorcane:

Go Gators!!!! Could you please explain your comment? I like what you are saying but don't understand the thought process. Thanks,
Lynn
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4612 Postby marciacubed » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:16 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4613 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:21 pm

http://www.cira.colostate.edu/cira/RAMM ... pical.html

A station on the southern coast has turned out of the east. That means one of two things 1# It has reformed near 18.2/71 in is now over water or 2# it is no longer closed.
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#4614 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:22 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4615 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:23 pm

lonelymike wrote:Hey WX57 you still think this could past 85W? I believe you said the other day that the winds above would be blowing west to east? Thanks always appreciate your obs:)


I wouldn't forecast west of 85 now, but I'd say it has about a 30% chance of moving inland west of 85W. Steering currents get weak in the Gulf by Tuesday (not as much W-NW winds in the mid levels by then.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4616 Postby canegrl04 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:24 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:http://www.cira.colostate.edu/cira/RAMM//rmsdsol/tropical.html

A station on the southern coast has turned out of the east. That means one of two things 1# It has reformed near 18.2/71 in is now over water or 2# it is no longer closed.


# 1 is the worst possible news
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#4617 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:27 pm

gatorcane wrote:Wxman it has been a *long* time since the Greater Tampa Bay area has seen hurricane force winds. Even Elena stayed far enough away to prevent any winds higher than TS.

Climatology says NO to a West Coast of Florida hit.



Well we have had a fall like Trough in the east most of August so far so I wouldn't bank too much on climatology with this one as it has been more like late Sept. than mid August.
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#4618 Postby robbielyn » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:28 pm

HurricaneQueen wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Wxman it has been a *long* time since the Greater Tampa Bay area has seen hurricane force winds. Even Elena stayed far enough away to prevent any winds higher than TS.

Climatology says NO to a West Coast of Florida hit.


Gatorcane:

Go Gators!!!! Could you please explain your comment? I like what you are saying but don't understand the thought process. Thanks,
Lynn


If you lay a 3d map flat and you see how the us looks kinneycorner, you will see just how hard it is to get a west coast hit minus your area you are more prone but say north of ft meyers the storms have to make a sharp right turn that without a trough to push it in that direction doesn't happen it will go n into the panhandle. Now if it were oct the troughs would make this far south and could push it into west coast of fl. Wish i could draw a picture for you to better help you understand what I am saying. It can ride up the coast but to have the center make landfall you need a trough or steering currents.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4619 Postby cpdaman » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:30 pm

what time is 22:42 ATC = in UTC

this dominican radar looks to show a turning motion building South as the LLC gets to the mountains

http://www.onamet.gov.do/?s=web&p=1002
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#4620 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:31 pm

wxman, if the currents get weak wouldn't that slow fay down and she really not move one way or the other? Also isn't the ridge supposed to be getting stronger by the middle of the week?
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