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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9741 Postby Normandy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:17 am

I give up on this storm. Its entire life over water it could not get a vertically stacked center, but once it crosses land it develops an eye. Outrageous.
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#9742 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:18 am

gtalum wrote:Crist's declaration of a state of emergency was prudent. The premature closure of schools and government offices was not.


there are a couple million kids that are going to egg your house with that attitude, lol
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9743 Postby Cookiely » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:22 am

Am I seeing this correctly? Fay proceeds across the state, comes back in the GOM and proceeds to landfall in the same area a second time. What are the odds? A zillion to one.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation
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#9744 Postby O Town » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:23 am

Not much rain here in Orlando yet.
That trough is keeping things well to the south including all the rain band. She looks weird all squished.
The rain will be here soon enough tho.
Oh and LOL at Normandy I was thinking the same thing.



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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9745 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:23 am

Normandy wrote:I give up on this storm. Its entire life over water it could not get a vertically stacked center, but once it crosses land it develops an eye. Outrageous.


There is no doubt Fay is strengthening over the Everglades this morning. A northern eyewall seems to be trying to form on the North and East side of a well-defined center on radar analysis. it's quite unbelievable if you ask me.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9746 Postby Normandy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:25 am

I need a pro met to explain what is going on with Fay. Storms don't develop eyes hours after they make landfall, they usually lose their eye features. Fay barely had a eyewall going when she came ashore, and the latest radar return shows an almost fully enclosed eyewall. It just makes not sense. Is it being enhanced by the trough to its north?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9747 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:26 am

Well, I am about to head off to the airport soon. Hopefully my noon flight out of Orlando will get out on time!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9748 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:27 am

Very strong RAD profile still with what appears to be an eye. Proximity to GOM, Lake O, and everglades may be aiding in maintaining status quo. Very slow drift on motion. Could see some very high rainfall amounts today, perhaps 10+ inches.

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?num=6&scale=1&delay=15&noclutter=1&showstorms=0&showlabels=1&ID=TBW&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&type=N0R&zoommode=pan&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&prevzoom=zoom
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9749 Postby O Town » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:29 am

Normandy wrote:I need a pro met to explain what is going on with Fay. Storms don't develop eyes hours after they make landfall, they usually lose their eye features. Fay barely had a eyewall going when she came ashore, and the latest radar return shows an almost fully enclosed eyewall. It just makes not sense. Is it being enhanced by the trough to its north?

I noticed the same kind of thing happen with Dolly as well. Her eye cleared out significantly once she was over Texas.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9750 Postby shaggy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:30 am

Normandy wrote:I need a pro met to explain what is going on with Fay. Storms don't develop eyes hours after they make landfall, they usually lose their eye features. Fay barely had a eyewall going when she came ashore, and the latest radar return shows an almost fully enclosed eyewall. It just makes not sense. Is it being enhanced by the trough to its north?



Saw on another site that land interaction/friction is tightening the rotation and that the everglades being low flat swamp hasn't hurt it much.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9751 Postby wafbwx » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:31 am

Cookiely wrote:Am I seeing this correctly? Fay proceeds across the state, comes back in the GOM and proceeds to landfall in the same area a second time. What are the odds? A zillion to one.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation


That's an old run of the GFS...from Sunday night.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9752 Postby Cuber » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:32 am

Normandy wrote:I need a pro met to explain what is going on with Fay. Storms don't develop eyes hours after they make landfall, they usually lose their eye features. Fay barely had a eyewall going when she came ashore, and the latest radar return shows an almost fully enclosed eyewall. It just makes not sense. Is it being enhanced by the trough to its north?



The Everglades is not your normal dry land it's wet warm and flat .. feeder band from the warm Atlantic picking up moisture to feed the beast too
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9753 Postby Normandy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:34 am

While what Dolly did over land was impressive, it doesn't hold a candle to this...I would encourage you all to look at a landfall radar shot of Fay, and look at it now. The difference is absolutely hilarious, its as if it went over a warm eddy over the gulf. Even though the everglades won't hurt the storm as much, there has to be some other reasoning as to why Fay is behaving like this.
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#9754 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:35 am

:uarrow:

If you look at this radar shot out of Miami, you can see a dry slot now just east of the eastern "ring" of deeper convection near the center. As Fay moves NNE, the land becomes less swampy and flat.....

With that said, I expect gradual weakening as the day progresses.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid= ... 11&loop=no
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9755 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:35 am

Normandy wrote:While what Dolly did over land was impressive, it doesn't hold a candle to this...I would encourage you all to look at a landfall radar shot of Fay, and look at it now. The difference is absolutely hilarious, its as if it went over a warm eddy over the gulf. Even though the everglades won't hurt the storm as much, there has to be some other reasoning as to why Fay is behaving like this.



Trough enhancement? Like Wilma at a MUCH smaller scale? maybe?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9756 Postby Normandy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:36 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
Normandy wrote:While what Dolly did over land was impressive, it doesn't hold a candle to this...I would encourage you all to look at a landfall radar shot of Fay, and look at it now. The difference is absolutely hilarious, its as if it went over a warm eddy over the gulf. Even though the everglades won't hurt the storm as much, there has to be some other reasoning as to why Fay is behaving like this.



Trough enhancement? Like Wilma at a MUCH smaller scale? maybe?


Thats really the only thing I could come up with.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9757 Postby sfwx » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:38 am

9:35 a.m.

Heavy rain

wind East 12 mph gusting 25 mph

1005 mb
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#9758 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:38 am

Another thing that's interesting to note. It looks like West Palm Beach saw stronger winds than Naples from Fay. I checked obs at the airport and could only find a 36mph gust at Naples but I saw a few 41mph gusts at West Palm Beach.

I saw a 48mph gust at Ft. Myers.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Inside Florida Penninsula

#9759 Postby O Town » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:39 am

This is kind of a cool series of pics. from google earth radar. Kinda fun to zoom in and look in the eye. 8-)


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Looks like shes over some farm land now.
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#9760 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:40 am

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4.74 inches of rain since Fay's first band.
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