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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2641 Postby fwbbreeze » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:28 am

Jason_B wrote:The models have been too far west with this storm all along therefore I'm not buying into this sharp west turn back into the Gulf, I think it will exit Florida....strengthen a bit and then head into Georgia/South Carolina.


wrong, the models have done a pretty good job with Fay. Yes there have been a few outliers but for the most part the consensus was not bad. When most of the models show some type of westward move, ie w, wnw, nw then its a pretty good bet some type of westward turn is gonna occur.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2642 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:30 am

What it is doing right now is very close to CMC of 48 hours ago - just a little north.
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#2643 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:30 am

Actually...If you remember when she was south of cuba and took that W movement for awhile, we saw some models shift/trend west. In fact, NHC, EURO, HWRF, and GFDL where the only ones over the south florida. Well, it appears...lol that those models did a fairly good job when others went west. I will admit, I thought they were out to lunch at times too..
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#2644 Postby rockyman » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:32 am

12z GFS initializing...let's see what it comes up with:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#2645 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:36 am

Amazingly the CMC has possibly been the best model in spotting the trends, it spotted the more westerly motion over the Caribbean islands and then along with the ECM also latched onto the recurve before most of the other models, pretty good given its normal rubbish!
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#2646 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:43 am

>>If it comes out a strong TS off the coast of flordia i think it may turn west a bit more north, than predicted

Like South Carolina? :D Yeah, this is my 8th day going for that. Interesting that an Alabama poster has called you to task. It's no big deal, deltadog's been hinting "Georgia" for a while himself.

Only thing I'm going to disagree with you is "models being too far west." Many, for a while, were too far east. Most converged, eventually, on SW FL.

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#2647 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:43 am

KWT wrote:Amazingly the CMC has possibly been the best model in spotting the trends, it spotted the more westerly motion over the Caribbean islands and then along with the ECM also latched onto the recurve before most of the other models, pretty good given its normal rubbish!


I can just picture you saying rubbish with that british accent :D

I think the important thing to watch for is how far north does she get before she stalls, that will tell if we will be dealing with a strong fay or weaker fay..
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#2648 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:49 am

Ivanhater wrote:
KWT wrote:Amazingly the CMC has possibly been the best model in spotting the trends, it spotted the more westerly motion over the Caribbean islands and then along with the ECM also latched onto the recurve before most of the other models, pretty good given its normal rubbish!


I can just picture you saying rubbish with that british accent :D

I think the important thing to watch for is how far north does she get before she stalls, that will tell if we will be dealing with a strong fay or weaker fay..


So far the 12z GFS stalls Fay off the central florida coast thpugh 48 hours.
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#2649 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:52 am

12z GFS still stalled off central florida coast after 60 hours. Talk about flooding.
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#2650 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:56 am

12z GFS still has Fay stalled right on the central florida coast after 72 hours.
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#2651 Postby rockyman » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:56 am

72 hours...approaching Tampa moving west or WSW
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#2652 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:58 am

CalmBeforeStorm wrote:12z GFS still has Fay stalled right on the central florida coast after 72 hours.


She still is moving west, not stalled
Exit point Tampa..

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2653 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:02 am

84 hours..hello waters of the gulf

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#2654 Postby freeroam » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:03 am

I am sooo confused. Exit point Tampa then what, N, GOM, Back to FL. I need to go to work and still hanging here trying to get some lil clue to the direction.
Ivanhater wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:12z GFS still has Fay stalled right on the central florida coast after 72 hours.


She still is moving west, not stalled
Exit point Tampa..

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs 1985 Elena

#2655 Postby bohaiboy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:04 am

Please review Elena's path in1985. We lived in Mobile and she was making a beeline ala Frederick directly toward Mobile. THen she veered off toward Cedar Key. We took off for North Alabama as it was Labor Day weekend/ After hearing reports of flash flood watches in south Alabama, we realized Elena had done a 180 and was headed back, ultimately going ashore in Mississippi, so it can happen.

[url]http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/elena1985filledrainwhite.gif[/url
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs 1985 Elena

#2656 Postby Sabanic » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:05 am

bohaiboy wrote:Please review Elena's path in1985. We lived in Mobile and she was making a beeline ala Frederick directly toward Mobile. THen she veered off toward Cedar Key. We took off for North Alabama as it was Labor Day weekend/ After hearing reports of flash flood watches in south Alabama, we realized Elena had done a 180 and was headed back, ultimately going ashore in Mississippi, so it can happen.

[url]http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain/elena1985filledrainwhite.gif[/url


I remember it well. Put the boards up, took them down, and then had to put them back up again. All in a matter of 2-1/2 days. CRAZY !!!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2657 Postby Comanche » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:13 am

what is the GFS showing now? I don't know how to get the frame by frame. Thanks for posting it guys.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2658 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:14 am

'Hater...GFS has her headed your way!

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2659 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:14 am

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#2660 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:14 am

Wx_Warrior wrote:'Hater...GFS has her headed your way!


Im still in the "Ill believe it when I see it" mode..lol
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