ATL Tropical Depression GUSTAV - Model Runs

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#701 Postby attallaman » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:54 am

Steve wrote:>>Holy **** on the GFDL

Yeah, that's pretty horrific. If if verifies, just all of you guys remember that we brought a unique culture, great food, oil and gas, shipping, trade and fun from South Louisiana. We knew how to do things right.

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What part of LA are you thinking landfall might be? W/LA, C/LA, or SE/LA? Where can I go see this GFDL model I'm reading so much about? The models on Weather Underground seem to be going all over the place.
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#702 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:56 am

attallaman wrote:
Steve wrote:>>Holy **** on the GFDL

Yeah, that's pretty horrific. If if verifies, just all of you guys remember that we brought a unique culture, great food, oil and gas, shipping, trade and fun from South Louisiana. We knew how to do things right.

Steve
What part of LA are you thinking landfall might be? W/LA, C/LA, or SE/LA? Where can I go see this GFDL model I'm reading so much about? The models on Weather Underground seem to be going all over the place.


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008082600-gustav07l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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#703 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:59 am

well the way things are progressing we will most likely have a cat 3 sometime tomorrow .. probably by 11
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#704 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:00 am

yeah something wrong with the timing of the nasa site.... there is an image for 649 utc .. i have never seen an image for that time before
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#705 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:00 am

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#706 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:01 am

Aric Dunn wrote:well the way things are progressing we will most likely have a cat 3 sometime tomorrow .. probably by 11



If it tracks like the GFDL it will be making landfall on that mountain area of land around 6 hours from now. So no cat3 if so.
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#707 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:04 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:well the way things are progressing we will most likely have a cat 3 sometime tomorrow .. probably by 11



If it tracks like the GFDL it will be making landfall on that mountain area of land around 6 hours from now. So no cat3 if so.


will see .. i have plotted the motion for the past 6 hours its been a little more westerly 300 ish
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#708 Postby Cyclenall » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:06 am

Yes, the 00Z GFDL model run shows a Katrina strength storm heading toward the general direction of New Orleans [*] near the 3rd anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.

* Model track subject to change
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#709 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:06 am

EURO...Mexico and if you finish the run....look what happens to that storm just to the east of Florida.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#710 Postby artist » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:07 am

Stratosphere747 wrote:Image


what is that on the east coast??
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#711 Postby attallaman » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:08 am

RL3AO wrote:
attallaman wrote:
Steve wrote:>>Holy **** on the GFDL

Yeah, that's pretty horrific. If if verifies, just all of you guys remember that we brought a unique culture, great food, oil and gas, shipping, trade and fun from South Louisiana. We knew how to do things right.

Steve
What part of LA are you thinking landfall might be? W/LA, C/LA, or SE/LA? Where can I go see this GFDL model I'm reading so much about? The models on Weather Underground seem to be going all over the place.


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008082600-gustav07l&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
Thanks. Would I be correct in saying from looking at that animation the storm would hit central LA rather than SE LA? A MET on WGNO 26 last night said it's possible that Gustav could reach the GOM by Saturday as a CAT 3 and a ridge of high pressure would deflect the storm towards TX or a trough of L pressure coming from the N would pull the storm to the N. I don't know if he was just saying that as an example or he thought that was a distinct possibility.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#712 Postby Innotech » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:08 am

Im gonna rest just fine. the only time I havent rested before a hurricane was the day before Cat 4 hurricane Lili was bearing down on Lafayette. Thats because we evacuated north about 100 miles and were stuck at a campground hoping the tornadoes wouldnt make it up that far. they almost did.
Of course, I have to say that its also a bit exciting in a morbid, fascinating kind of way. I have a real passion for tracking these things and how they work and the sheer amount of power they produce. Its amazing how a few clouds in the ocean can spin up into a gigantic monster of a storm capable of leveling the better part of a county or two. Scary but intensely fascinating.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#713 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:11 am

artist wrote:
what is that on the east coast??


95L with the African wave that has exited the coast trailing behind.
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Re: ATL: TS Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea Model Runs

#714 Postby southerngale » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:12 am

Duddy wrote:I've tought my wife how to read these models. When I showed her that she nearly fainted. It doesn't help that Texas is back in the danger zone. A storm that strong could care less about any high pressures. It'll plow right through it.

This is going to be one of THOSE storms. You guys know what I mean? Another Andrew possibly. It sucks that we KNOW that it will hit the US. :cry:


Actually, we don't KNOW that. I believe a few of the models show a Mexico landfall.

Also, I don't think it would just plow right through high pressure. There would have to be a weakness.
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#715 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:17 am

Texas was never out of the danger zone. Nor is Tampico, New Orleans, Tampa and so on across the Gulf. Heck for all we know this could continue to the N and never get into the Gulf.

It's a fluid situation with a rather complex setup right now. There are many scenarios in play and folks shouldn't get so fixated on the doom and gloom stuff..
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#716 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:42 am

Well we do have to note that some models are taking this into the Yucatan, both the UKMO and the ECM strengthen the high further north enough to send it west...however they don't relaly do anything with Gustav...

Meanwhile The GFS based models relaly power up Gustav into a monster cat-5...and given the expected track there is a really good chance of a cat-4/5 coming from this.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#717 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:05 am

WTH is the EURO doing??? :double:
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#718 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:08 am

Well it builds the ridge in, to be fair the UKMO does exactly the same thing as well.

The big issue though is that both are probably going to be way way too weak therefore it may gain a little more poleward motion then those models expect. However even the GFDL has this lifting only once it reaches the far western tip of Cuba.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#719 Postby vaffie » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:28 am

0Z Nogaps has shifted significantly now and is in line with all of the other models with strong intensification--wouldn't you know it. Also heading fast on a Texas/Lousiana trajectory at the end.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ngptc2.c ... =Animation
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#720 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:32 am

Yep good model agreement on a track close or over the Yucatan it seems, then moving on to be a probable US threat.

Looking very likely this will become the big one this season...
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