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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#741 Postby BigB0882 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:08 am

Stormcenter wrote:The good thing for N.O. is this far (6 days) out the models (especially GFDL) are rarely correct. Gustav is either going to the left or right of that. If I had to bet $$$ I say to the right.


This was my thought exactly. I rarely see the models get it right at the beginning. However, one thing to note is that the models seem to be really bunched together with just a couple way off. I think they have a good idea of where this is going. There will probably be only slight shifts right or left, IMO. It could shift back and forth and possibly end up right back where they originally had it going. Only time will tell. I live in Baton Rouge and am going to the store on my way home to stock up on supplies. May not end up needing them but I want to get them before the mad dash. If this thing shifts to the left then I am in more trouble.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#742 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:09 am

why are yall looking at the 12Z runs?


here are the 06z runs:

http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh

dramatic shift left....now that is a consensus...
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#743 Postby Stormtrack03 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:11 am

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#744 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:14 am

Not looking good for the Northern Gulf Coast (LA/MS/AL)
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#745 Postby HurricaneRobert » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:15 am

Why does 95L's run show Gustav making a sharp turn to the NE?

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#746 Postby Agua » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:16 am

I take comfort in knowing those things will flip all over the place over the next several days. It's likely going to be a terrible storm for someone though. Pray.

Not a met, just an uninformed opinion.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#747 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:20 am

Holy Crap :eek: Looks like yesterday's GDFL and HWRF models projections are the correct ones. This thing is suppose to be a cat 2 before crossing the tip of Cuba . Somebody along the Gulf coast is getting a nasty hurricane in time for Labor Day
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#748 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:21 am

Innotech wrote:Im gonna rest just fine. the only time I havent rested before a hurricane was the day before Cat 4 hurricane Lili was bearing down on Lafayette. Thats because we evacuated north about 100 miles and were stuck at a campground hoping the tornadoes wouldnt make it up that far. they almost did.
Of course, I have to say that its also a bit exciting in a morbid, fascinating kind of way. I have a real passion for tracking these things and how they work and the sheer amount of power they produce. Its amazing how a few clouds in the ocean can spin up into a gigantic monster of a storm capable of leveling the better part of a county or two. Scary but intensely fascinating.


Speaking of Lily, that was one weird storm. It ramped up and was looking awful for the central LA coast, then she almost magically and miraculously faded from a cat 4 down to a cat one just before making landfall. The degradation of the storm was quicker than it's rapid intensification. Let's hope the same thing happens with Gustav. Also, remember Dennis? He did the same thing. Also, as bad as Ivan's storm surge was, his winds dramatically and unexplainably diminished prior to making landfall.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#749 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:23 am

OK where is everyone getting there 12Zs from.......the only GFDL I can find is 06z, GFS 06z.....
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#750 Postby duris » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:24 am

dwg71 wrote:I would be very concerned if I lived from Homa to PCB, imo. The models are beginning to have some consensous and that is when it gets scary.


While not wishing this on anyone else, now is when I would like the see that 300 mile shift in consensus Katrina did between Thursday and Friday. Now if only our administration would let us know what triggers the expensive disaster recovery plan we initiated after Katrina. Guess if this still verifies 3 days out, I'll be headed to Memphis. At least I can get some BBQ, and the levees are stronger on my side now.
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#751 Postby TSmith274 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:29 am

Thank God they built those gates at the lake. But I, for one, see the latest consensus as just a trend. Let's hope that by this evening, they're all aiming west. I wouldn't be surprised.
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#752 Postby dwg71 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:31 am

duris wrote:
dwg71 wrote:I would be very concerned if I lived from Homa to PCB, imo. The models are beginning to have some consensous and that is when it gets scary.


While not wishing this on anyone else, now is when I would like the see that 300 mile shift in consensus Katrina did between Thursday and Friday. Now if only our administration would let us know what triggers the expensive disaster recovery plan we initiated after Katrina. Guess if this still verifies 3 days out, I'll be headed to Memphis. At least I can get some BBQ, and the levees are stronger on my side now.


NOLA residents have carte blanche on wishing hurricanes on others if it spares them :)
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#753 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:32 am

duris wrote:
dwg71 wrote:I would be very concerned if I lived from Homa to PCB, imo. The models are beginning to have some consensous and that is when it gets scary.


While not wishing this on anyone else, now is when I would like the see that 300 mile shift in consensus Katrina did between Thursday and Friday. Now if only our administration would let us know what triggers the expensive disaster recovery plan we initiated after Katrina. Guess if this still verifies 3 days out, I'll be headed to Memphis. At least I can get some BBQ, and the levees are stronger on my side now.


In time you may get your wish.
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#754 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:32 am

TSmith274 wrote:Thank God they built those gates at the lake. But I, for one, see the latest consensus as just a trend. Let's hope that by this evening, they're all aiming west. I wouldn't be surprised.


Or east.
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#755 Postby duris » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:35 am

dwg71 wrote:
duris wrote:
dwg71 wrote:I would be very concerned if I lived from Homa to PCB, imo. The models are beginning to have some consensous and that is when it gets scary.


While not wishing this on anyone else, now is when I would like the see that 300 mile shift in consensus Katrina did between Thursday and Friday. Now if only our administration would let us know what triggers the expensive disaster recovery plan we initiated after Katrina. Guess if this still verifies 3 days out, I'll be headed to Memphis. At least I can get some BBQ, and the levees are stronger on my side now.


NOLA residents have carte blanche on wishing hurricanes on others if it spares them :)


Actually, it's very weird, because now we know what to do and what to (possibly) expect, so it doesn't seem as bad, while others might be less prepared. Nothing you can do but have yourself prepared. We shouldn't have expected the government to be prepared the first time and have no confidence they will be any more prepared this time. Guess that seems pretty negative, but c'est la vie.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#756 Postby ericinmia » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:41 am

FSU mm5 has this thing blowing up south of cuba, into what looks to be a very formidable storm. The higher res version of this model is running, but only out to 15hrs... I'll post it when its done also.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/mm5/slp.d1-merge.html

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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#757 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:41 am

Stormtrack03 wrote:Image


Ugh..Hoping to have better news this morning..maybe tonigh models will get away from my area..sorry for any of my fellow gommers, but this one aint no joke :eek:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#758 Postby x-y-no » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:42 am

ROCK wrote:OK where is everyone getting there 12Zs from.......the only GFDL I can find is 06z, GFS 06z.....


12Z GFDL won't be out until a couple of hours after the 12Z GFS - in other words approx 2pm eastern time.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#759 Postby N2Storms » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:50 am

[quote="Ivanhater"][quote="Stormtrack03"][img]http://www.hurricanealley.net/images/07LSPAG.gif[/img][/quote]

Ugh..Hoping to have better news this morning..maybe tonigh models will get away from my area..sorry for any of my fellow gommers, but this one aint no joke :eek:[/quote]


Hey Ivan...even though it is far too early to say with any amount of certainty but IMO this is going to be a W GOM problem...if that ridge stays as strong as some of the models suggest then we should be "good to go" here in the Panhandle...now if it trends over towards NO or MS then Pensacola will most definitely be affected but as of right now, it's looking pretty good for points east Pensacola
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#760 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:51 am

From what i learned from Fay models can only give you somewhat accurate short term preditions. I think we willl see this go into the GOM but the biggest threat still is from MX all ther way to FL. But i think we will have a better idea what region on the gulf coast about 3 to 5 days from now.
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