ATL Tropical Depression GUSTAV - Model Runs

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#781 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:13 am

That's interesting, Derek - hopefully that doesn't speak of mine!!!

Thanks, ericinmiami - true enough...

P.S. Let's hope the NHC is having a bad forecasting skill day and CLIPER is correct - personally, I'd prefer to be wrong, if for a good outcome...

P.P.S. And, it's hopefully not even for us here in South Florida, but, you can't be folks in TX and LA are uneasy about this, for sure...
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#782 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:36 am

Interesting that none of the models have picked up on the ULL dropping SW towards Gustav (it's already impinging on it's northern outflow):

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html
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#783 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:40 am

>>Interesting that none of the models have picked up on the ULL dropping SW towards Gustav (it's already impinging on it's northern outflow):

That's a ventilation quadrant (NE).

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#784 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:42 am

Aside from the ULL, the NE flow seems like a TUTT-type feature - sort of...
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#785 Postby GTStorm » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:04 am

Frank2 wrote:Too bad the NHC didn't mention the CLIPER solution that brings Gustav NNW across the Bahamas...

http://my.sfwmd.gov/portal/page?_pageid ... ema=PORTAL

Just a thought...

P.S. If there are meteorologists here at the moment, I'd like to know your thoughts on my comment...


Not a met, but....the clipper "solution" for Fay was consistently 90 degrees or so to the model consensus, especially after the models began predicting the WNW movement. Seems to be doing the same thing with Gustav.

I tried to Google a discussion on this model but came up empty. Maybe someone else can post a good link? :?:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#786 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:30 am

GFS finally on board (loses, sees it, loses it, sees it)

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#787 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:32 am

Yeah clearly the GFS is just not going to ever see this system correctly however it does suggest the synoptics will allow this system to bend towards the NW before the Yucatan.
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#788 Postby dwg71 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:35 am

Seems to be coming together for a major central (maybe east central) gulf event. IMO. Time will tell.... back to wobble watching.
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#789 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:36 am

Why is it when I look at this satellite loop something tells me
Gustav is not going follow the NHC's projected track?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#790 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:39 am

GFS loses it again....156


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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#791 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:41 am

Wx_Warrior wrote:GFS loses it again....156


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Maybe it just goes POOF. :)
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#792 Postby Nederlander » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:58 am

Stormcenter wrote:Why is it when I look at this satellite loop something tells me
Gustav is not going follow the NHC's projected track?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html



what do you see that suggests that?
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#793 Postby ColdFusion » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:59 am

Stormcenter wrote:Why is it when I look at this satellite loop something tells me
Gustav is not going follow the NHC's projected track?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html


Maybe watch the VIS loop instead?
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#794 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:03 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Why is it when I look at this satellite loop something tells me
Gustav is not going follow the NHC's projected track?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html



NHC has a good record for projected tracks especially 48-72 hours out. Interesting side note,should Gustav enter the Gulf,threatening the coastal states as a major cane,the timing couldn't be worse for the Repub. National Convention.I'm betting Gustav will be the one taking center stage
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#795 Postby Bolebuns » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:21 pm

canegrl04 wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Why is it when I look at this satellite loop something tells me
Gustav is not going follow the NHC's projected track?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html



NHC has a good record for projected tracks especially 48-72 hours out. Interesting side note,should Gustav enter the Gulf,threatening the coastal states as a major cane,the timing couldn't be worse for the Repub. National Convention.I'm betting Gustav will be the one taking center stage


So, Gustav is a Democrat!? Does this mean that he will have a hard time getting organized and will self destruct before he hits the coast? :cheesy:
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#796 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:22 pm

The GFDL should be out very soon, this will be a very interesting given what the last few runs have suggested.
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#797 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:26 pm

True, but, the GFDL had a hard time with Fay, so, you never know...

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#798 Postby haml8 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:31 pm

So, Gustav is a Democrat!? Does this mean that he will have a hard time getting organized and will self destruct before he hits the coast? :cheesy:[/quote]

Spit, cough.. coke through nose.... that was FUNNY!!!
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#799 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:33 pm

What's funny is that some have said GFDL nailed Fay....I'm waiting for Gustavo Mendoza to come to the GOM before I starting getting concerned. I've seen too many systems make too many models bomb out.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Gustav in Central Caribbean - Model Runs

#800 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:36 pm

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