ATL HANNA: Extratropical - Discussion

[lbvbl]

wow monday-tuesday hanna really stalls. any chance it will speed up?

If it gets caught under the ridge it will accelerate to the W. Not saying it will be Andrew, but once he got under the ridge he flew towards SFL.

if this were to happen, central FL would probably be the target

[gatorcane]

Again its not prudent to narrow down specific geographic regions, lets just see what the trends say.

[jaxfladude]

How long will the shear last for Hanna and will it kill Hanna off??

[meteorologyman]

I know everything is uncertain at this point but i'm looking for a general idea...

IF Hanna was to manuver around the shear what kind of category storm are we looking at if it were to hit FL Thursday?

or IF it stalled and hit FL Sat or Sun

[Blown Away]

wow monday-tuesday hanna really stalls. any chance it will speed up?

If it gets caught under the ridge it will accelerate to the W. Not saying it will be Andrew, but once he got under the ridge he flew towards SFL.

if this were to happen, central FL would probably be the target

If Hanna makes it to that 27.5N latitude and then gets caught under the ridge W or WSW is very possible, now way to predict Central FL, SFL, or Keys. Jeanne went west, Betsy went WSW, I think the 1947 or 49 major cane went WSW back to Boca area, and Andrew even went WSW before going due W across SFL. Recurve out to sea, Carolinas, and dissipation is just as likely IMO.

[jlauderdal]

You know.. sometimes we have to seperate ourselves.. watching every millisecond only compounds the never ending feeling, at least with me. Its only been 12 hours that Hanna even exists officially and it feels like a week!

geez, what are you going to do when channel 7 goes to 24 hour coverage 4 days out from hannah...

[Sirius LeWindy]

The ULL to the west of TD8 is making it flat on the west side.
Won't this hurt TD8 from developing or let it move any more to the west?

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I posted this morning. But I didn't think any one was wake much. and it was only a TD too.
The ULL is going to be trouble in some ways. But this ULL has been there the whole time and look what she has done. So maybe it is not going to be much as a factor in the play of Hanna but which way she moves up around or under around. I think up and over myself.

Now I did go and look at Andrew but I can't copy the it for some reason. But it is like right in the tracks. Sorry Fl I know you didn't want to here that. Get the boats ready and tie down the hatches. it is going to be a little bumpy in the road ahead

That is due to a limit on the number of times storms in any given year can be compared to Andrew by the We-Are-Watching-You-Club.

[Decomdoug]

You know.. sometimes we have to seperate ourselves.. watching every millisecond only compounds the never ending feeling, at least with me. Its only been 12 hours that Hanna even exists officially and it feels like a week!

geez, what are you going to do when channel 7 goes to 24 hour coverage 4 days out from hannah...

Last I checked, they were already waving their arms and running in circles.

[jlauderdal]

You know.. sometimes we have to seperate ourselves.. watching every millisecond only compounds the never ending feeling, at least with me. Its only been 12 hours that Hanna even exists officially and it feels like a week!

geez, what are you going to do when channel 7 goes to 24 hour coverage 4 days out from hannah...

Last I checked, they were already waving their arms and running in circles.

good lord, its not even sept one and we have the media and some residents going bonkers, based on past history there could be alot more to come for this part of the world like well into october

[KWT]

At this stage its jsut too early to know whats going to happen to Hanna, thats provtheres no certainty thats providing it survives the shear at all, which is no certainty at this stage.

[cpdaman]

the llc appears to have slowed/moving erratically

gator perhaps the recent blow up of convection can suck the swirl back under, what does anyone think about that

[HURAKAN]

[x-y-no]

Unless that ULL backs away, that LLC will remain exposed.

[txwatcher91]

Well what I was talking about with Hanna moving directly under the ULL is, ULL's have worked their way down to the surface before, over a period of many days, and have become TD's or TS's. Now the question is, if Hanna moved right under the ULL would the ULL "link" with the LLC or what would happen?

[DESTRUCTION5]

Unless that ULL backs away, that LLC will remain exposed.

Agree but when it does it looks like the sky is the limit here...That LLC is vigrous..

[Cyclone1]

That ULL is tearing Hanna to shreds. It's be nice if it'd do the same to Gustav.

[fci]

[quote="jlauderdal
good lord, its not even sept one and we have the media and some residents going bonkers, based on past history there could be alot more to come for this part of the world like well into october[/quote]

I don't see how the calendar has anything to do with the media and residents going bonkers.
It's based on what is being said by the Pro Mets, NHC and models and has nothing to do with the date.

[gatorcane]

That ULL is tearing Hanna to shreds. It's be nice if it'd do the same to Gustav.

Yes and no. It's exposing the center but the system as a whole is very vigorous and pulsing deep convection to the east. It's just a matter of time until the conditions will improve (unfortunately).

[KWT]

Well the thing to note is the LLC is pretty strong, it almost certainly will be downgraded but I think with such a strong looking LLC the NHC won't get rid of this for a while and by that time I think that conditions will start to slowly improve.

[gatorcane]

That ULL is tearing Hanna to shreds. It's be nice if it'd do the same to Gustav.

Yes and no. It's exposing the center but the system as a whole is very vigorous and pulsing deep convection to the east. It's just a matter of time until the conditions will improve (unfortunately).

On a fecitious note I would say the ULL has decided to go after Gustav now and has given up on Hanna --- it seems to be moving inarguably west or WSW now...towards Gustav..

Usually in this part of the Atlantic the ULLs dominate but now they appear outnumbered with the Gustav-Hanna tagteam

Click this link to see what I mean:
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