ATL Tropical Depression GUSTAV - Model Runs

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1861 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:25 am

Nimbus wrote:GFS track just brushes the tip of Cuba then brings it in west of NOLA this run. No sign of any late forecast turn toward Texas just a slightly further left initialization.



It's a big change compared to the old run which had it coming in SE LA.
Remember we are still over 3 days out so things can change
even further.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1862 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:01 pm

The models just don't want to leave poor Lafayette alone. Anxiously awaiting the 12z GFDL and HWRF...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1863 Postby N2Storms » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:18 pm

[quote="PTrackerLA"]The models just don't want to leave poor Lafayette alone. Anxiously awaiting the 12z GFDL and HWRF...[/quote]


I have said all along and I continue to say, IMO the models have consistently pointed to a LF in Louisiana and I don't see anything that would change my opinion...if I lived anywhere on the La / Ms coastlne I'd be gassing up right now and be gone no later than tomorrow afternoon...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1864 Postby perk » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:22 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:All of my fellow Texas people trying to get excited over this- probably not this one. We're still in the cone, so you can stay a little excited, but if this goes where most of the reliable guidance suggests, or perhaps even further East as it tracks more Northeast of the earlier forecast points as a trough digs all the way to the Yucatan, it'll still be a big event here. Houston will probably wind up housing tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of storm evacuees.

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Anyway, if Hanna actually gets all the way South to Cuba, the entire Gulf Coast will be doing this all over again next weekend.


This is potentially a very disruptive week to ten days coming up for everyone in the country, especially along the Gulf. And gasoline prices are almost certain to rise for everyone.

But the NoGaps and UK Met models have been lost since the beginning.

Stay tuned in case the completely unexpected happens, better safe than sorry, but this has all the makings of a SE LA to Fla. P'handle storm.

In my humble, amateur and unofficial opinion.



ED had you bothered to look at your local news, you would know that Ed Emmet Harris county judge said that Houston would not be a host city for people evacuating, and i won't even bother to comment on the rest of your ridiculous post.
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#1865 Postby dwg71 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:29 pm

Houston may not formerly be a host, but I assure you if it hits NOLA, houston will have evacuees.
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#1866 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:31 pm

dwg71 wrote:Houston may not formerly be a host, but I assure you if it hits NOLA, houston will have evacuees.


exactly, is that guy going to be posting national guard at his borders checking id's...they can come to florida, we are happy to help our neighbors
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1867 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:31 pm

N2Storms wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:The models just don't want to leave poor Lafayette alone. Anxiously awaiting the 12z GFDL and HWRF...



I have said all along and I continue to say, IMO the models have consistently pointed to a LF in Louisiana and I don't see anything that would change my opinion...if I lived anywhere on the La / Ms coastlne I'd be gassing up right now and be gone no later than tomorrow afternoon...


Who knows if the shear ramps up more then expected in the GOM it not be more
then a Cat.1. We all know crazier things have happened in the tropics so it is NOT impossible.
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#1868 Postby gboudx » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:32 pm

I bet Dallas would have some too. The AAC has nothing scheduled for this weekend, next week or next weekend. And there's Reunion Arena as well which isn't being used anymore.
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#1869 Postby dwg71 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:34 pm

12Z hwrf, shifts west to SE LA and then turns around and heads southwest. Not sure what to make of that. But still calling for LA landfall.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1870 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:35 pm

12z GFDL:


WHXX04 KWBC 291730
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL STORM GUSTAV 07L

INITIAL TIME 12Z AUG 29

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 18.3 78.5 290./ 7.0
6 18.6 79.2 291./ 7.9
12 19.2 79.8 315./ 7.3
18 20.2 80.7 316./13.4
24 21.0 81.8 307./12.9
30 22.0 82.9 313./14.2
36 22.9 83.8 313./12.4
42 23.8 84.8 315./12.4
48 24.9 85.6 322./13.9
54 25.9 86.7 315./13.7
60 27.0 87.6 318./13.8
66 28.0 88.7 312./13.6
72 29.1 89.8 318./15.2
78 30.2 90.9 314./14.3
84 31.2 91.8 318./12.2
90 32.0 92.6 317./11.0
96 32.9 93.2 326./10.0
102 33.8 93.6 335./ 9.0
108 34.3 93.8 341./ 5.9
114 34.9 93.9 344./ 5.6
120 35.3 93.8 13./ 4.6
126 35.5 93.4 60./ 3.6
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1871 Postby N2Storms » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:37 pm

[quote="Stormcenter"][quote="N2Storms"][quote="PTrackerLA"]The models just don't want to leave poor Lafayette alone. Anxiously awaiting the 12z GFDL and HWRF...[/quote]


I have said all along and I continue to say, IMO the models have consistently pointed to a LF in Louisiana and I don't see anything that would change my opinion...if I lived anywhere on the La / Ms coastlne I'd be gassing up right now and be gone no later than tomorrow afternoon...[/quote]

Who knows if the shear ramps up more then expected in the GOM it not be more
then a Cat.1. We all know crazier things have happened in the tropics so it is NOT impossible.[/quote]


Absolutely, I agree and if you watched TWC last night Dr. Lyons kept alluding to the fact that this was going to bend wwd in time and if that happens too far in advance of LF then that puts you guys directly in the Cross Hairs. To me, this has always had the makings for a La / Tx storm
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#1872 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:37 pm

dwg71 wrote:12Z hwrf, shifts west to SE LA and then turns around and heads southwest. Not sure what to make of that. But still calling for LA landfall.


Models going west again.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1873 Postby rtd2 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:39 pm

perk wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:All of my fellow Texas people trying to get excited over this- probably not this one. We're still in the cone, so you can stay a little excited, but if this goes where most of the reliable guidance suggests, or perhaps even further East as it tracks more Northeast of the earlier forecast points as a trough digs all the way to the Yucatan, it'll still be a big event here. Houston will probably wind up housing tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of storm evacuees.

Image


Anyway, if Hanna actually gets all the way South to Cuba, the entire Gulf Coast will be doing this all over again next weekend.


This is potentially a very disruptive week to ten days coming up for everyone in the country, especially along the Gulf. And gasoline prices are almost certain to rise for everyone.

But the NoGaps and UK Met models have been lost since the beginning.

Stay tuned in case the completely unexpected happens, better safe than sorry, but this has all the makings of a SE LA to Fla. P'handle storm.

In my humble, amateur and unofficial opinion.



ED had you bothered to look at your local news, you would know that Ed Emmet Harris county judge said that Houston would not be a host city for people evacuating, and i won't even bother to comment on the rest of your ridiculous post.





wow this continued bashing is getting old...its up to 4 pages now! I think Ed has already explained his reasoning and qaulified it with his DISCLAIMER...would like to see some more post on the models please
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1874 Postby Nederlander » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:39 pm

:double: flip flip flip flop flip flop... i cant handle this anymore! lol
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#1875 Postby dwg71 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:39 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
dwg71 wrote:12Z hwrf, shifts west to SE LA and then turns around and heads southwest. Not sure what to make of that. But still calling for LA landfall.


Models going west again.


Still centered on LA, GFDL now has it just west of NOLA.

UKMET did shift east, but is still an outlier. far west.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1876 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:40 pm

12z UKMET is TEXAS!

GLOBAL MODEL DATA TIME 12UTC 29.08.2008



TROPICAL STORM GUSTAV ANALYSED POSITION : 18.9N 78.4W



ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL072008



VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY

-------------- -------- -------- --------

12UTC 29.08.2008 18.9N 78.4W MODERATE

00UTC 30.08.2008 19.0N 79.7W MODERATE WEAKENING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 30.08.2008 20.1N 81.3W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 31.08.2008 20.9N 83.1W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 31.08.2008 23.1N 85.2W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 01.09.2008 24.6N 87.3W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

12UTC 01.09.2008 26.2N 89.7W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 02.09.2008 27.3N 91.9W STRONG INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 02.09.2008 28.0N 93.6W STRONG LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 03.09.2008 28.4N 94.7W STRONG INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 03.09.2008 28.6N 95.9W STRONG LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 04.09.2008 28.6N 97.1W MODERATE WEAKENING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 04.09.2008 28.6N 98.4W MODERATE WEAKENING SLIGHTLY

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1877 Postby Sabanic » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:41 pm

Nothing has really changed. Still a cluster in SE/LA

We've got a tense few days ahead with Gus so everyone stay calm and be ready
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#1878 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:43 pm

GFDL continues to target NOLA
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1879 Postby rtd2 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:44 pm

Nederlander wrote::double: flip flip flip flop flip flop... i cant handle this anymore! lol




agreed..i'm out of this thread........ :wink:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav-Model Runs

#1880 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:46 pm

Sabanic wrote:Nothing has really changed. Still a cluster in SE/LA

We've got a tense few days ahead with Gus so everyone stay calm and be ready



Clustered over SE LA? These are old runs and the news one are further west now.
I'm not sure where you see the cluster in SE La. unless you are just referring to two models
that are now shifting westward with consensus.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html
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