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#6501 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:56 am

sanibel, i agree. a more rightward track even in the short term would move track. if it gets closer to nola, i feel west turn will be further inland. further west and it could be inland, but closer to the coast.

has anybody heard if they are cancelling lsu game, i would.
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Re: Cat. 3 Hurricane Gustav in NW Caribbean Sea

#6502 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:57 am

Looks like it has buttomed out for the moment, based on recon and satellite. You can see that the reds no longer go all the way around, but have some orange and yellows on the southeast side.
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#6503 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:58 am

Of course if Gus gets east of N.O. and hooks a west turn right into N.O. from the SE that wouldn't be good.

These are classic intensification wobbles in the eye structure. Gus has been doing them since it left Jamaica. The fist never lies.
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#6504 Postby scotto » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:58 am

LSU game pushed up to 10 A.M.
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#6505 Postby WmE » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:59 am

:uarrow: The lightening mentioned in the VDM indicates rapid intensification still going on.
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Re: Cat. 3 Hurricane Gustav in NW Caribbean Sea

#6506 Postby Sabanic » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:03 am

Looks like we'll be spared on this one, but we'll definitely be praying for those to our West. Seems the high is going to be far too strong for Gus to push his way eastward towards us. At least at this time.
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#6507 Postby jojo » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:03 am

I've just zoomed in on Cayo Largo, south of Cuba, on Google Earth and I don't think I've seen anywhere that's so picture postcard perfect. Gustav seems to be heading straight for there and if that happens, I would think the coral reefs there will be absolutely churned up - it also seems to be a busy holiday resort so I hope they've got everyone out.

Looks like Cuba may have a Cat 4 approaching them soon. I hope there's no loss of life and everyone gets out of harm's way.

I would think that New Orleans may recommend evacuation soon. Hope the repairs done so far will protect the city and everyone gets out safely this time.
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#6508 Postby TideJoe » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:05 am

dwg71 wrote:tampa its hard to argue with that. nhc has it going south of isle of youth. if current heading of the past couple of hours continues it will miss it north. have to wait to see how large if any, a deviation it is.


I just noticed that. It looks like it will travel at least on the north half of the isle of youth. It might not affect the 3-day track (might just be a wobble), but if it keeps that heading for a day or so then the track is greatly affected.

Keep in mind that the 3-day track for Katrina had forecast a landfall in Destin - PCB area for a good day or so. I'm not saying this to disprove the NHC track, but to make people aware that the track can still shift 150+ miles in either direction.
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#6509 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:05 am

Watch for slight eastward adjustment of track.

Back to bed.
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#6510 Postby TideJoe » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:09 am

Sanibel wrote:Watch for slight eastward adjustment of track.

Back to bed.


I agree...... probably about 15-20 miles (at landfall).
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#6511 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:10 am

TideJoe wrote:
dwg71 wrote:tampa its hard to argue with that. nhc has it going south of isle of youth. if current heading of the past couple of hours continues it will miss it north. have to wait to see how large if any, a deviation it is.


I just noticed that. It looks like it will travel at least on the north half of the isle of youth. It might not affect the 3-day track (might just be a wobble), but if it keeps that heading for a day or so then the track is greatly affected.

Keep in mind that the 3-day track for Katrina had forecast a landfall in Destin - PCB area for a good day or so. I'm not saying this to disprove the NHC track, but to make people aware that the track can still shift 150+ miles in either direction.


i agree that it could still change, that recurve forecast was stricky with katrina. if current heading keeps up for a couple more hours, i like sani expect shift slightly east and quicker landfall.
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#6512 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:15 am

It's without question slightly North and East of the forecast points...


Landfall interaction will be CRUCIAL to determine final landfall.
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#6513 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:17 am

Looking at the latest set of major models, the UKMET/GFS/HWRF/GFDL all turn Gustav SW either before or after landfall... The probablity of this happening is growing and the timing of this wll be crucial.
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#6514 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:21 am

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#6515 Postby TampaFl » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:23 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:It's without question slightly North and East of the forecast points...


Landfall interaction will be CRUCIAL to determine final landfall.


Sat. Pics loop also shows that it is just North & east of track - just click on Trop Fst Points

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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#6516 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:25 am

>>Watch for slight eastward adjustment of track.

Looking at the SWMFD plot of the 06 and 00z models and with one or two exceptions, I'm smoked out down here in Lafourche Parish. :x Really, really, really don't need a second disaster in 3 years. :x :x :x :x :x

NHC Track takes it about 40 minutes (drivetime) west of here to just SW of Patterson/Bayou Vista/Morgan City/Berwick and the Atachafalaya/East Cote Blanche Bays. :x

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#6517 Postby TideJoe » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:26 am

Weatherfreak000 wrote:It's without question slightly North and East of the forecast points...


Landfall interaction will be CRUCIAL to determine final landfall.


And north and east of the forecast doesn't bode well for NO. They need this storm to be as far west of them as they can get it (far east would be even better).
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#6518 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:26 am

Recon shows a NNW wobble in the past hour or so.
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#6519 Postby Portastorm » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:28 am

Steve wrote:>>Watch for slight eastward adjustment of track.

Looking at the SWMFD plot of the 06 and 00z models and with one or two exceptions, I'm smoked out down here in Lafourche Parish. :x Really, really, really don't need a second disaster in 3 years. :x :x :x :x :x

NHC Track takes it about 40 minutes (drivetime) west of here to just SW of Patterson/Bayou Vista/Morgan City/Berwick and the Atachafalaya/East Cote Blanche Bays. :x

Steve


Um Steve, shouldn't you be "getting out of Dodge" soon?
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#6520 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:31 am

RL3AO wrote:Recon shows a NNW wobble in the past hour or so.


5 hour track based on recon vdm

48 minutes north and 41 west. that is north of nw slightly.
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