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#821 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:50 am

I'll stick with my Linas prediction.
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#822 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:51 am

Yep GFDL Skims ECFL
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#823 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:52 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:hAVE NOT PLOTTED BUT IT SEEMS WAY wEST? 27.7 79.5 IS CLOSE TO FL

Tue Sep 2 07:35:11 EDT 2008
WHXX04 KWBC 021132

CHGQLM

ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER



NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR



HURRICANE HANNA 08L



INITIAL TIME 6Z SEP 2



DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT

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NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC

OFFICIAL FORECAST.





FORECAST STORM POSITION



HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)



0 21.3 72.6 200./ 7.0

6 21.2 72.5 132./ 1.3

12 21.4 72.8 309./ 3.3

18 21.6 73.0 319./ 3.1

24 22.0 73.3 322./ 4.8

30 22.5 73.6 326./ 5.4

36 23.5 74.2 329./11.5

42 24.5 75.2 315./13.2

48 24.9 76.4 289./12.1

54 25.6 77.4 306./11.2

60 26.5 78.4 313./12.6

66 27.7 79.5 317./15.7

72 29.1 80.6 323./16.6

78 30.6 81.5 328./17.4

84 32.5 82.1 344./19.2

90 34.5 82.2 356./19.5

96 36.6 81.7 12./22.0

102 39.6 80.4 25./31.5

108 42.3 78.0 41./32.0

114 44.8 74.7 53./34.9

120 47.3 71.2 55./34.9

126 49.4 66.7 65./36.7




MUCH farther west!!! Northern Florida landfall!

http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images ... orm_08.gif
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#824 Postby Sirius LeWindy » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:02 am

:uarrow:

UKMET much farther east. It's a trend!
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#825 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:03 am

It will be interesting if the HWRF follows the GFDL.

Notice the UKIE is now with most of the models.

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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#826 Postby Sirius LeWindy » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:05 am

Not one forecast in the pro-met TA section shows a Fl hit.
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#827 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:24 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:hAVE NOT PLOTTED BUT IT SEEMS WAY wEST? 27.7 79.5 IS CLOSE TO FL

Tue Sep 2 07:35:11 EDT 2008
WHXX04 KWBC 021132

CHGQLM

ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER



NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR



HURRICANE HANNA 08L



INITIAL TIME 6Z SEP 2



DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT

REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD

NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC

OFFICIAL FORECAST.





FORECAST STORM POSITION



HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)



0 21.3 72.6 200./ 7.0

6 21.2 72.5 132./ 1.3

12 21.4 72.8 309./ 3.3

18 21.6 73.0 319./ 3.1

24 22.0 73.3 322./ 4.8

30 22.5 73.6 326./ 5.4

36 23.5 74.2 329./11.5

42 24.5 75.2 315./13.2

48 24.9 76.4 289./12.1

54 25.6 77.4 306./11.2

60 26.5 78.4 313./12.6

66 27.7 79.5 317./15.7

72 29.1 80.6 323./16.6

78 30.6 81.5 328./17.4

84 32.5 82.1 344./19.2

90 34.5 82.2 356./19.5

96 36.6 81.7 12./22.0

102 39.6 80.4 25./31.5

108 42.3 78.0 41./32.0

114 44.8 74.7 53./34.9

120 47.3 71.2 55./34.9

126 49.4 66.7 65./36.7


that would be about 130 miles off fort lauderdale on the clean side too, we might be getting into a situation where wobble watching will actually be warranted as it moves up the coast assuming this track holds
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#828 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:34 am

GFDL 35 miles E of me at 66 hours. 34 miles east of Greg/Chris JLauderdale! :D
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#829 Postby JPmia » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:57 am

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#830 Postby Bane » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:01 am

what i find funny is how many people dismiss the 6z model runs when there is a big shift if the shift goes away from them but welcome it when the shift goes towards them.
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#831 Postby MBismyPlayground » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:05 am

Bane wrote:what i find funny is how many people dismiss the 6z model runs when there is a big shift if the shift goes away from them but welcome it when the shift goes towards them.


Well I for one am happy to see the shift towards the west!!! I don't want any of this mess even close to my door. My neighbor is a Katrina survivor and has been freaking a little.... Naw, it ain't coming this direction. :D
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#832 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:11 am

Man u guys are slacking..LOL

HWRF Takes her to JAX...Nother Left shifting Model this morning...Trend or Flop?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#833 Postby M_0331 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:20 am

MB,
I am in Charleston, SC area: don't see anything good about Hanna forecast. Hope it will change general forecast direction but we are not out of harm's way yet. fwiw ; just my personal veiwpoint.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#834 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:21 am

Blown_away wrote:GFDL 35 miles E of me at 66 hours. 34 miles east of Greg/Chris JLauderdale! :D


alright you had your fun, back east it goes next run.. :D
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#835 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:24 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Blown_away wrote:GFDL 35 miles E of me at 66 hours. 34 miles east of Greg/Chris JLauderdale! :D


alright you had your fun, back east it goes next run.. :D


So probably about 40 or so miles east of my location on the border of Wellington/West Palm Beach (about 10 miles from the ocean)
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#836 Postby MBismyPlayground » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:25 am

M_0331 wrote:MB,
I am in Charleston, SC area: don't see anything good about Hanna forecast. Hope it will change general forecast direction but we are not out of harm's way yet. fwiw ; just my personal veiwpoint.


Well based on the sheer, and the latest models, it is a big possibility that this will take a fla track, maybe cruise along the coast. Rain and wind, but I am not gonna jump on that band wagon. I would prefer it stay down in Fla, no offense to the Fla people.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#837 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:35 am

Huge shift in both GFDL and HWRF. I will await the 12Z runs to see if this is a trend. They both initialize off the GFS, so if the GFS run had something flaky, they could be flaky.

Most of the models are still aimed at South Carolina.
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#838 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:36 am

think back about what the dynamic model consensus showed for Hanna late last week when she was north of Puerto Rico.....as an invest/depression

many showed a dive SW or SSW into Eastern Cuba or near Haiti...

Look what is happening now. Models generally nailed the track.
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#839 Postby Weatherboy1 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:40 am

Yes, as I look at the morning move in Hanna (SW-erly) and the shift west in the models, I can't help but wonder if this isn't going to scrape the FL coast a la David. Definitely seems like she'll be starting her NW motion from a point farther S and W of the prior few forecasts.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Hanna Model Runs

#840 Postby M_0331 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:40 am

MB,
I read you loud & clear!
Be Safe & hope for the best for all.
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