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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#201 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:32 am

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Looks like that illusion may not be? Unless the circulations are not in the same place.

I'd say 50 kt for the intensity right now given all considerations.
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#202 Postby bob rulz » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:32 am

Still looks higher than 40mph. I'd say 50 at the LEAST, possibly upwards of 60.

How often do the Dvorak satellites make estimates?
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#203 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:33 am

bob rulz wrote:Still looks higher than 40mph. I'd say 50 at the LEAST, possibly upwards of 60.

How often do the Dvorak satellites make estimates?


Every 6 hours. If they make a high estimate, they could put out a special advisory at 2 pm.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#204 Postby Cryomaniac » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:34 am

HurricaneRobert wrote:Has there ever been a major hurricane near the Cape Verde Islands?


I doubt it, and I doubt this will be one there.
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#205 Postby bob rulz » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:36 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
bob rulz wrote:Still looks higher than 40mph. I'd say 50 at the LEAST, possibly upwards of 60.

How often do the Dvorak satellites make estimates?


Every 6 hours. If they make a high estimate, they could put out a special advisory at 2 pm.


I'd say there's a good chance of that. This could be a 3.0 - 3.5 at this rate.

Looks like the SHIPS forecast for RI was right. I don't think I've seen a system look this good this close to the Cape Verde islands in recent memory.

HurricaneRobert wrote:Has there ever been a major hurricane near the Cape Verde Islands?


No, and there probably never will be. There have been storms that have become hurricanes near the islands though. I seem to recall a cat 2 hurricane occurring very close to Cape Verde at one point.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#206 Postby meteorologyman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:45 am

never say never
there is a first time for everything
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#207 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:15 pm

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Puzzling system.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#208 Postby Aristotle » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:30 pm

Regardless, she sure is getting her act together very very quickly. That's a very pretty storm.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#209 Postby cpdaman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:31 pm

wow just wow

from looks of microwave imagery it just needs to wrap the inner band (but that imagery is a few hours old) so perhaps she has......very impressive none the less
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#210 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:16 pm

Wow thats some pretty serious wrapping going around that vis eye like feature, indeed that looks like a formative eyewall there on that microwave imagery! :eek:
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#211 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:21 pm

02/1745 UTC 13.4N 25.1W T2.5/2.5 JOSEPHINE -- Atlantic Ocean
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#212 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:26 pm

I'm really surprised that the Dvorak estimates are so low with a system that is so well wrapped round and showing such awesome banding qualities howver it may just be that the banding is a little removed from the center.
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#213 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:34 pm

KWT wrote:I'm really surprised that the Dvorak estimates are so low with a system that is so well wrapped round and showing such awesome banding qualities howver it may just be that the banding is a little removed from the center.


It may also be that it is a fairly shallow system (at least it seems that way).
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#214 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:37 pm

Possibly, still despite that the wrapping is suggestive of something strongerthen 35kts, I've not often seen a 35kts have this sort of apperence, I'd go with 45kts right now possibly even 50kts...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#215 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:50 pm

BEST TRACK at 18:00 UTC upgrades the winds to 45kts.

AL, 10, 2008090218, , BEST, 0, 135N, 253W, 45, 1000, TS,
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#216 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:57 pm

Welll there you go NHC must be listening to me :P :wink:
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#217 Postby Cyclenall » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:14 pm

My guess at strength is 50 knots right now. It's a wonderful looking eastern Atlantic TC.
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#218 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:18 pm

Will be interesting if the models have a good grip on the upper set-up that Josephine will encounter, they are determined to weaken it quite a lot and eventually lose it in the central Atlantic, but we shall have to wait and see.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Josephine in Eastern Atlantic

#219 Postby littlevince » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:34 pm

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#220 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:40 pm

I agree with 50 kt for the intensity.
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