ATL IKE: Models Discussion

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#1221 Postby shah8 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:58 pm

Betsy's two declines in lattitudes came when it was weak cat 1 the first time and when it declined in strength the second time, it went from cat 4 to cat 3, and stalled and started going down, and when it declined to a cat 2, then the serious declines in latitude occured and continued...

However, we should see something like Betsy's loop a'la ridge transition later on in or past Florida/Cuba.
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#1222 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:00 pm

Ike is NOT moving Due West...geez every hour someone thinks the storm is moving West..


It's right along the NHC forecast point. WSW...it's been that way for hours..
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1223 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:02 pm

jinftl wrote:The GFDL shows Ike at 21.9N in about 12 hours and 21.0N in 24 hours from now...let's keep an eye and see where he stands in the morning. That would mean losing almost a full degree of latitude in 12 hours. Not saying it is impossible...just unusual.


Definitely. If it is indeed that far south in the morning then I'll believe it, but right now I'm very skeptical.
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#1224 Postby jinftl » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:03 pm

No one is disputing that...since we are in the models section, an area of discussion has been will a sw track as sharp as the gfdl is showing....getting to 20N...take place? The current heading would not show a system getting to 20N....therefore, a sharper sw turn must be in store.

Weatherfreak000 wrote:Ike is NOT moving Due West...geez every hour someone thinks the storm is moving West..


It's right along the NHC forecast point. WSW...it's been that way for hours..
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#1225 Postby captain east » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:03 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:Ike is NOT moving Due West...geez every hour someone thinks the storm is moving West..


It's right along the NHC forecast point. WSW...it's been that way for hours..

It's a bit north of the NHC track points, but it's still moving SW but barely south...
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1226 Postby hicksta » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:04 pm

this would be ridiculous if it went into the gulf, and threaten LA. Just got back to LSU and this campus has trees down everywhere. Lets just pray for a uturn and it be a fish :double:
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#1227 Postby Grease Monkey » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:08 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:Ike is NOT moving Due West...geez every hour someone thinks the storm is moving West..


It's right along the NHC forecast point. WSW...it's been that way for hours..


Please show me how it's not moving west? Looks pretty clear to me.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-rb.html
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1228 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:09 pm

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#1229 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:10 pm

Grease Monkey wrote:
Weatherfreak000 wrote:Ike is NOT moving Due West...geez every hour someone thinks the storm is moving West..


It's right along the NHC forecast point. WSW...it's been that way for hours..


Please show me how it's not moving west? Looks pretty clear to me.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-rb.html


Is this a joke? lol. Bring up a floater...don't use long range.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1230 Postby captain east » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:12 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-vis.html
Turn on the Trop Fcst Pts at the top, it's moving SW right now, but barely south.
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#1231 Postby Tropics Guy » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:16 pm

Based on the latest models, the NHC forecasted track will probably be adjusted south yet again at 11. This track goes against climatology, but the models must be seeing the ridge strengthening SW.

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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1232 Postby Grease Monkey » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:17 pm

captain east wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-vis.html
Turn on the Trop Fcst Pts at the top, it's moving SW right now, but barely south.


It appears it did move slightly south, but then it seems to just continue west in the last couple of frames
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1233 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:18 pm

Caught the end of Max mayfield and the channel 10 weatherman talking about the windshield wiper effect with models , trending one way than swinging back the other.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1234 Postby Burn1 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:18 pm

Me say a Galveston landing with ridging builing back up over midwest.....
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1235 Postby wzrgirl1 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:18 pm

What does the nogaps see? It seems as if it is the outlier here?
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#1236 Postby x-y-no » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:22 pm

ONCE AGAIN:

We do have a chat room. This isn't it. Please stick to more substantial posts about the models and Ike.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1237 Postby Grease Monkey » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:22 pm

Burn1 wrote:Thank God I will miss South Florida.....Forcasting is so much better today than even 10 years ago! :D


Yep SE florida in the clear. Season cancel. 8-)
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1238 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:23 pm

Consensus models shifting south to northern Cuba from 18Z to 00Z

18Z plot:
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New 00Z Plot:
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I think the 03Z NHC track will be similar to the green/orange TCON/TVCN tracks that are touching one another southwest of the Keys.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1239 Postby jhpigott » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:23 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:Caught the end of Max mayfield and the channel 10 weatherman talking about the windshield wiper effect with models , trending one way than swinging back the other.


I don't think Mayfield buys this trend south . . . and as many have said here before, if he talks people listen
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1240 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:26 pm

jhpigott wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:Caught the end of Max mayfield and the channel 10 weatherman talking about the windshield wiper effect with models , trending one way than swinging back the other.


I don't think Mayfield buys this trend south . . . and as many have said here before, if he talks people listen

Agree , I would expect the models to start trending back a little north .
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