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#4721 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:44 pm

feederband wrote:IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR. A WEST TO
WEST-NORTHWEST MOTION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND MONDAY. ON THIS
TRACK...THE CORE OF THE HURRICANE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE AWAY FROM
THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS AND OVER OR NEAR EASTERN CUBA TONIGHT AND
TOMORROW.


I don't see why this matters, the fact is he has been moving WNW to NW over the last three hours. The NHC uses 6+ hour movements.
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#4722 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:45 pm

KWT wrote:Yep Crazy not surprising, this make forecasting Ike over land a touch more interesting given its inner core is in state of flux before landfall, with no one central core I've got to wonder what difference this will make overland?


Well if he moves north of the forecast he could finish the ERC before landfall.
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#4723 Postby feederband » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:45 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:
feederband wrote:IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR. A WEST TO
WEST-NORTHWEST MOTION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND MONDAY. ON THIS
TRACK...THE CORE OF THE HURRICANE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE AWAY FROM
THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS AND OVER OR NEAR EASTERN CUBA TONIGHT AND
TOMORROW.


I don't see why this matters, the fact is he has been moving WNW to NW over the last three hours. The NHC uses 6+ hour movements.


A WEST TO
WEST-NORTHWEST MOTION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND MONDAY


That doesn't matter?
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#4724 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:46 pm

gatorcane wrote:well NHC is shifting the cone south yet again. Mexico threat?


The NHC doesn't shift the cone at intermediate advisories, it's just wunderground's format.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4725 Postby Sabanic » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:46 pm

Looks like TX bound for sure. 5PM discussion leaves little doubt. They seem very confident.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4726 Postby Vblazer » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:46 pm

Tropics Guy wrote:Wow, could IKE be trying to parallel the Cuban North Coast!, seems like new overall motion is WNW., could he be trying to follow climatology and bust through the ridge, even though the synoptic set-up shouldn't allow him too.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-avn.html

TG


im not sure ike knows what climatology is...
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#4727 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:46 pm

well Ike is giving the NHC a rough time needless to say...didn't they mention in the 11AM discussion models had stopped shifting south? Guess not.

Look at this animation of the cone over time....its bent to the NW but the whole cone just keeps shifting west each advisory...I think it has shifted over 800 miles west...or so:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2008/gr ... p_5W.shtml
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#4728 Postby KWT » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:47 pm

NHC still forecasting a hurricane when Ike emerges, I've got to admit I'll be very surprised if Ike is a hurricane by the time it makes it into the GoM.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4729 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:47 pm

The weebles and wobbles don't matter much unless the eye misses Cuba. Then there could be some real problems fo Key West. :eek:
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#4730 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:47 pm

feederband wrote:
fasterdisaster wrote:
feederband wrote:IKE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR. A WEST TO
WEST-NORTHWEST MOTION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND MONDAY. ON THIS
TRACK...THE CORE OF THE HURRICANE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE AWAY FROM
THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS AND OVER OR NEAR EASTERN CUBA TONIGHT AND
TOMORROW.


I don't see why this matters, the fact is he has been moving WNW to NW over the last three hours. The NHC uses 6+ hour movements.


A WEST TO
WEST-NORTHWEST MOTION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND MONDAY


That doesn't matter?


If he moved WNW he would be only grazing the coast.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4731 Postby jinftl » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:47 pm

well no mention of any impacts in south fl by nhc...will keep an eye out to see if there are any wobbles during the evening that may change that...but nhc lowered probablilty of ts winds in miami from 41% to 34% at 5pm so 'a whole lot of useless' was apparently in my head the last hour about a new risk!
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4732 Postby Lowpressure » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:47 pm

Tropics Guy wrote:Wow, could IKE be trying to parallel the Cuban North Coast!, seems like new overall motion is WNW., could he be trying to follow climatology and bust through the ridge, even though the synoptic set-up shouldn't allow him too.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-avn.html

TG

Watching that same thing and wondering. Cleary WNW over the last three hours.
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#4733 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:47 pm

NHC now calling for a West movement from his current position tonight.
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#4734 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:48 pm

KWT wrote:NHC still forecasting a hurricane when Ike emerges, I've got to admit I'll be very surprised if Ike is a hurricane by the time it makes it into the GoM.


If he grazes the coast he likely will be a hurricane.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4735 Postby Tom8 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:48 pm

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Re: ATL IKE Category 3 - Discussion

#4736 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:48 pm

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#4737 Postby KWT » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:48 pm

Now heading slightly south of west again it seems, heading take sit close to the northern most part of east Cuba.
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#4738 Postby feederband » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:49 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:I don't see why this matters, the fact is he has been moving WNW to NW over the last three hours. The NHC uses 6+ hour movements.


A WEST TO
WEST-NORTHWEST MOTION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT AND MONDAY


That doesn't matter?[/quote]

If he moved WNW he would be only grazing the coast.[/quote]

HMMMM...So that probably matters then huh?
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#4739 Postby Canelaw99 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:49 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:NHC now calling for a West movement from his current position tonight.


They're calling for a W to WNW motion tonight....it's that NW part that might be concerning....
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#4740 Postby Lowpressure » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:50 pm

KWT wrote:Now heading slightly south of west again it seems, heading take sit close to the northern most part of east Cuba.

Don't mean to sound harsh, but where are you seeing anything close to south of due west? Loops are very clearly wnw.
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