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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5481 Postby micktooth » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:29 pm

Hey Gang, can we please stick with discussing Ike? We're almost up to page 300. Can you take other discussions to other boards? There is a Hurricane that will be in the Gulf soon and I think it's important to keep this forum open for direct discussions of Ike. Thank you very much.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5482 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:30 pm

I'd expect a model shift southward, possibly to Corpus Christi to Victoria. Ike continues to track left of guidance today. I don't like forecasting a Cat 3-4 to hit my house.
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#5483 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:31 pm

Here's a question - how many times has Texas been hit 3 times by named storms in a season? It can't be that many, that's for sure.

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5484 Postby marciacubed » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:32 pm

IMO Ike is tightening up. I think gaining a little strength since he popped out over water. The last sat. image makes me think so. How far away from Cuba does he have to be to be able to send Recon in?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5485 Postby Lowpressure » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:32 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'd expect a model shift southward, possibly to Corpus Christi to Victoria. Ike continues to track left of guidance today. I don't like forecasting a Cat 3-4 to hit my house.

Somehow, I do not think you would ever be accused of -removed-.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5486 Postby Portastorm » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:33 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'd expect a model shift southward, possibly to Corpus Christi to Victoria. Ike continues to track left of guidance today. I don't like forecasting a Cat 3-4 to hit my house.


OK, now I really am concerned if YOU are saying this! :eek: A major hurricane hit there would also mean horrible conditions even in my neighborhood (south Austin, TX), some 200 miles inland!
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#5487 Postby dwg71 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:33 pm

wxman - it appears to be trending west and further west. Lets see if it continues.

How about a cat 1 splitting BRO and Corpus.

That would be best case scenerio (sans a dissapation)
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5488 Postby VeniceInlet » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:33 pm

GoldenTriangle wrote:Sir, I'm sure you are correct, however, as an uneducated and uninformed dumbo I still reserve the right to place my faith in the weather reports from the weather expect who I find to be most accurate.....

Maybe it all depends upon who is comprehending what...if the Local ProMet is closer to accuracy than the NHC then I'll trust that person...I really don't care if he uses his big toe to forecast. :lol: .

First of all, it's Ma'am :) and second, I did not call you uneducated or uninformed. You took that out of context from a different post where I was making a different point to a different person.
What comes out of a computer is only as accurate as what goes into one.

I think that was my point. What's going into them is better today than it was a few years ago.

You can choose to believe whomever you want. I only posted that information because some people might not know how much technology has changed, and that what happened a few years ago isn't necessarily relevant to today.
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#5489 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:34 pm

wxman57, most models that have come out already are showing a track in that area, obviously the longer it takes to lift out then the further west it goes it seems.

Also wouldn't the deeper water you mention mean it holds near peak strength for longer upto the coast?

Anyway I think its odds on this gets its major status back in the Gulf, a further west path gives it even longer in the very high heat content.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5490 Postby funster » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:34 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'd expect a model shift southward, possibly to Corpus Christi to Victoria. Ike continues to track left of guidance today. I don't like forecasting a Cat 3-4 to hit my house.


Argh. Another Texas evacuation in the works. Any idea how fast Ike would moving? Would there also be a Allison like flood problem in addition to the wind/surge problem?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5491 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:34 pm

wxman57 wrote:I'd expect a model shift southward, possibly to Corpus Christi to Victoria. Ike continues to track left of guidance today. I don't like forecasting a Cat 3-4 to hit my house.


Thanks wxman57. I don't want to see another Carla type cyclone in my lifetime either. If you can, drop over to the "Local Forum" with some thoughts. They would be welcomed there too. :wink:
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#5492 Postby HouTXmetro » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:34 pm

Ya'll think the NHC will adjust the track?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5493 Postby Nexus » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:35 pm

marciacubed wrote:IMO Ike is tightening up. I think gaining a little strength since he popped out over water. The last sat. image makes me think so. How far away from Cuba does he have to be to be able to send Recon in?


During the daytime, recon is allowed to go over land.
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#5494 Postby Lowpressure » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:35 pm

dwg71 wrote:wxman - it appears to be trending west and further west. Lets see if it continues.

How about a cat 1 splitting BRO and Corpus.

That would be best case scenerio (sans a dissapation)

Sorry to say, but this will be much stronger than cat1. You can wish and I will wish with you. Buying plywood might be a better use of time.
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#5495 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:36 pm

dwg71 wrote:wxman - it appears to be trending west and further west. Lets see if it continues.

How about a cat 1 splitting BRO and Corpus.

That would be best case scenerio (sans a dissapation)


Hopefully that happens but probably will be closer to Bret strength then cat-1 at landfall...still your right thats the best case and the one I'm hoping for.

Ike seems to be trying to wrap up though I think the land interaction is preventing it really wrapping up too well on the northern side, a problem that obviously won't be around for a good 72-96hrs in the gulf...
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#5496 Postby dwg71 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:36 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Ya'll think the NHC will adjust the track?



Lets see what euro GFDL and HWRF do, if they are all south of NHC track, then yes it will move south.
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#5497 Postby Lowpressure » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:37 pm

KWT wrote:wxman57, most models that have come out already are showing a track in that area, obviously the longer it takes to lift out then the further west it goes it seems.

Also wouldn't the deeper water you mention mean it holds near peak strength for longer upto the coast?

Anyway I think its odds on this gets its major status back in the Gulf, a further west path gives it even longer in the very high heat content.


The other MAJOR point of concern is the recent trend of storms to strengthen rapidly on approach to the Texas coastline.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5498 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:38 pm

Nexus wrote:
marciacubed wrote:IMO Ike is tightening up. I think gaining a little strength since he popped out over water. The last sat. image makes me think so. How far away from Cuba does he have to be to be able to send Recon in?


During the daytime, recon is allowed to go over land.


Once a system makes landfall it doesn't matter if its day or night, recon is NOT allowed to travel into the parts of the system that are over land. Theres to much risk involved with flying into a system while over land.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5499 Postby haml8 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:38 pm

srainhoutx wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I'd expect a model shift southward, possibly to Corpus Christi to Victoria. Ike continues to track left of guidance today. I don't like forecasting a Cat 3-4 to hit my house.


Thanks wxman57. I don't want to see another Carla type cyclone in my lifetime either. If you can, drop over to the "Local Forum" with some thoughts. They would be welcomed there too. :wink:


Local forum link please?? :)
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#5500 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:41 pm

what happened to all of the Florida posters? It's interesting to note that one can quickly parse the active tropics page looking for usernames to quickly see where a storm may be threatening.

In this case I see alot of LA and Texas posters so without even looking at the NHC track, I know where the system may be heading...
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