ATL: IKE Discussion

[jdjaguar]

We need a new category for surge. It's silly to call this a Cat 2. It underestimates the storm's power. The Saffir-Simpson Scale is really best for wind damage.

A new scale has been developed..it was posted on this thread yesterday.

Ike is a 5.6 out of 6.0 for surge. (as of yesterday..may be higher today)

Katrina was a 5.1

[Janie2006]

All of those people playing in the surf along the western end of Galveston Island had better use what sense they have and get away from the water. That's no place to be. Ike is going to push a lot of water into that area and even now it is easily possible to get pulled into the water and swept away. This isn't the time for foolishness.

[Solaris]

Latest recon pass has FL 112 kts, also extrap 952.4 mb (winds 40 kts)

[Bunkertor]

We should keep an eye on this...

[weunice]

OMG!!!! DOWNTOWN GALVESTON IS ALREADY FLOODING, The strand is flooded

Source? I would like to share this information with people who are upset that the NWS put out such a strong "cry wolf" warning yesterday for what looks like might "only be a Cat-1". They are in the Houston area ...

[HURAKAN]

The Historic Strand has flooded:



Link: http://www.galveston.com/webcams/

[JtSmarts]

Latest recon pass has FL 112 kts, also extrap 952.4 mb (winds 40 kts)

I think that's the highest FLV winds we've seen in the Gulf. (I could be wrong though)

[jinftl]

Agree...people always focus on the max wind speed as a basis for assessing the threat. This will be a Cat 2 hurricane away from the surge....and unless he strengthens more, that will probably translate into lots of sustained Cat 1 winds inland when you factor in the reduction over land, etc. Cat 1/Cat 2 winds will do lots of 'cosemetic' damage but not significant structural failure of well-built structures. If you stayed, you need to be boarded up....just to give you that extra protection. Huge power outages ahead.....inland areas will have to deal with that for 1+ week i am afraid.

On the coast, a 20 or 25 foot surge is just not something you hear with a typical cat 2. You can say it until you are blue in the face, and waves are crashing onto the road with an offshore flow now in galvestion, but prepare for a cat 4 surge. 7' water rises in SE LA can not be more of a neon blinking arrow.

We need a new category for surge. It's silly to call this a Cat 2. It underestimates the storm's power. The Saffir-Simpson Scale is really best for wind damage.

[Extremeweatherguy]

Please refrain from comments about death tolls, not enough people getting out, people killed by trees, etc. Thank you Storm 2k. You guys are the best.

Sadly in this case I think with the severe situation with the monster surge coming in, this is a rare event where it is justifiable...

Juat hearing a fraighter with 22 people is stuck in the gulf 90 miles SE of Galveston.

I just heard on the ABC13 live feed that the coast guard said those people on the freighter are on their own. They will not be able to rescue them. Hopefully they come through this ok!

[tolakram]

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/data_m ... =Tide+Data

[HouTXmetro]

OMG!!!! DOWNTOWN GALVESTON IS ALREADY FLOODING, The strand is flooded

Source? I would like to share this information with people who are upset that the NWS put out such a strong "cry wolf" warning yesterday for what looks like might "only be a Cat-1". They are in the Houston area ...

Watching it LIVE on CBS KHOU HOUSTON.... check the website to see if they have a live braodcast.

http://www.khou.com

[Raebie]

Did I hear Jim Cantore correctly? Did he say that only 50-60% of the west side of Galveston evacuated and 80% of the east side??

[green eyed girl]

The Historic Strand has flooded:

Link: http://www.galveston.com/webcams/

Would someone mind posting a picture of this? I'm at work and for some reason can't pull this up. Thanks!

[jinftl]

Is there a corresponding wind scale?

We need a new category for surge. It's silly to call this a Cat 2. It underestimates the storm's power. The Saffir-Simpson Scale is really best for wind damage.

A new scale has been developed..it was posted on this thread yesterday.

Ike is a 5.6 out of 6.0 for surge. (as of yesterday..may be higher today)

Katrina was a 5.1

[cycloneye]

Link to Strand Web Cam and other web cams in Galveston:

http://www.galveston.com/webcams/

[Aristotle]

OMG!!!! DOWNTOWN GALVESTON IS ALREADY FLOODING, The strand is flooded

Source? I would like to share this information with people who are upset that the NWS put out such a strong "cry wolf" warning yesterday for what looks like might "only be a Cat-1". They are in the Houston area ...

people like this die in storms like this!!!!!!!!! watch any news channel Weunice

[CoCo2]

Did I hear Jim Cantore correctly? Did he say that only 50-60% of the west side of Galveston evacuated and 80% of the east side??

Yes! Cantore just said that. Un-freakin' believable!! Is it too late to leave Galveston?

[Aristotle]

Did I hear Jim Cantore correctly? Did he say that only 50-60% of the west side of Galveston evacuated and 80% of the east side??

the west side of galveston is already under water

[AZRainman]

According to this new measure: Integrated Kinetic Energy, Ike is the second most powerful Atlantic storm in the past 40 years (more powerful than Katrina or Rita by virtue of its vast wind field).

First ever NWS deathcast?

LIFE THREATENING INUNDATION LIKELY!

ALL NEIGHBORHOODS...AND POSSIBLY ENTIRE COASTAL COMMUNITIES...
WILL BE INUNDATED DURING THE PERIOD OF PEAK STORM TIDE. PERSONS
NOT HEEDING EVACUATION ORDERS IN SINGLE FAMILY ONE OR TWO STORY
HOMES MAY FACE CERTAIN DEATH. MANY RESIDENCES OF AVERAGE
CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ON THE COAST WILL BE DESTROYED. WIDESPREAD
AND DEVASTATING PERSONAL PROPERTY DAMAGE IS LIKELY ELSEWHERE.
VEHICLES LEFT BEHIND WILL LIKELY BE SWEPT AWAY. NUMEROUS ROADS
WILL BE SWAMPED...SOME MAY BE WASHED AWAY BY THE WATER. ENTIRE
FLOOD PRONE COASTAL COMMUNITIES WILL BE CUTOFF. WATER LEVELS MAY
EXCEED 9 FEET FOR MORE THAN A MILE INLAND. COASTAL RESIDENTS IN
MULTI-STORY FACILITIES RISK BEING CUTOFF. CONDITIONS WILL BE
WORSENED BY BATTERING WAVES CLOSER TO THE COAST. SUCH WAVES WILL
EXACERBATE PROPERTY DAMAGE...WITH MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF
HOMES...INCLUDING THOSE OF BLOCK CONSTRUCTION. DAMAGE FROM BEACH
EROSION COULD TAKE YEARS TO REPAIR.

http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.p ... ne+Warning

[CajunMama]

Let's not give over to hysteria here. Let's calm down and post calmly.