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#11261 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:11 pm

Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.

Source? That is not what is being reported here. Maybe 20%-30%.
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#11262 Postby funster » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:11 pm

Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.


Where will they all go to stay safe?
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#11263 Postby funster » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:12 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.

Source? That is not what is being reported here. Maybe 20%-30%.


An official source on KHOU just said that. Not sure of his name. He spoke right after the Galveston mayor.
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#11264 Postby Raebie » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:13 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.

Source? That is not what is being reported here. Maybe 20%-30%.


Official dude speaking alongside the Mayor on KHOU.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#11265 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

Weatherfreak14 wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:I think the Saffir-Simpsons scale needs some major changes. Hurricane Ike is a large Category 2 hurricane that will produce up to 25 foot high storm surge. I think there should be a scale based on how large the storm, not just the wind speed and central pressure.


we need the Saffir Simpsons scale and a surge scale, both to be used together in forcasting.


The Saffir-Simpson scale is NOT a surge scale. Peak sustained wind isn't even one of the factors used in the calculation of storm surge. It's all about the size of the wind field, pressure differential, angle of impact, shape of coastline, and water depth along the coast. Max sustained wind isn't figured into the equation.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#11266 Postby BigB0882 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

hial2 wrote:Any info on refineries flooding??..Here in NC gas prices have gone up 56 CENTS/gallon since this A.M. and there are long lines at gas stations..


People are only making it worse for themselves by increasing the demand so much. What good is it really going to do to go ahead and fill up today? What, it saves you another week of avoiding possibly higher gas costs? People need to go about their lives as normal, instead they want to force the prices even higher.

Anyway, back to topic, all my family is in Beaumont, Port Arthur, Nederland, etc. Hope they are safe. My mom and grandparents are bunkering down in Orange. Should be safe there.
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#11267 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

earlier they said 25% of galvestons stayed.
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#11268 Postby TampaBay » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

funster wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:
Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.

Source? That is not what is being reported here. Maybe 20%-30%.


An official source on KHOU just said that. Not sure of his name. He spoke right after the Galveston mayor.


It was the Galveston City Manager.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#11269 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

Source of 40% was Galveston city official in the city's official news conference.
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#11270 Postby ronjon » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

Raebie wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:
Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.

Source? That is not what is being reported here. Maybe 20%-30%.


Official dude speaking alongside the Mayor on KHOU.

He's the city manager.
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#11271 Postby Agua » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:14 pm

funster wrote:
Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.


Where will they all go to stay safe?


Where'd they go in 1900?
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#11272 Postby Raebie » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:15 pm

I would hope alot of them came to their senses this afternoon and left.

But it appears that 30,000 or so are left.
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#11273 Postby KBBOCA » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:15 pm

Just announced on the CBS station in Houston: A Shelter of last resort now opened on Galveston Island at Ball Highschool.

They're calling it a dire situation. 150 people have been rescued and moved to this shelter.
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#11274 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:15 pm

If that 45 percent figure is valid, verifiable, and legit, well...

Darwin will be arriving MUCH sooner than I originally hoped... hopefully, those people will still survive, and they must be well prepared.
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#11275 Postby jinftl » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Then what a lesson that would....a Cat 2....with huge surge hitting densely populated area would only rank behind katrina and andrew in $ damage, Changes perception of "Cat 2".


Derek Ortt wrote:
KWT wrote:superfly, all depends on where it makes landfall, the highest winds are a touch away from the eye thanks to the structure so as you say far east Texas and maybe far W/LA may take the main wind damage but thats really only a minor story compared with the mammoth surge that is more then likely going to rake the Galveston Bay.

Should be noted any towns along central, eastern Texas as well as W.La neare the coasts will be in major trouble and there will be huge damages, this will be a 10 billion dollar storm at least IMO.


closer to 50 billion
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#11276 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Thank you for clarification. Guess it depends on when you heard it. They are now telling them to go to Ball High school on the island.

STOP WITH THE NAME CALLING. I don't think people that stay behind when ordered out are very smart either, but we don't need those comments here. We want to keep this open for productive discussion.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#11277 Postby rtd2 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:16 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
jinftl wrote:CNN met making some bold statements.....says looks like...and it could change...that worst east eyewall will go right of Shipping Channel sparing 25' surge...he did say could change


Surge or wind driven tide, whatever you want to call it, is already over 6 feet in places along Galveston Bay. Personally I would not put much faith in someone reporting from afar llike that.





they (CNN ) DO have mets but its TOO early to call any thing safe or spared...
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#11278 Postby Shoshana » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Agua wrote:
funster wrote:
Raebie wrote:45% of Galveston stayed.


Where will they all go to stay safe?


Where'd they go in 1900?


There's a big church on the island that I think 400 people were ok in during the 1900 storm. The 'last resort' is a school.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#11279 Postby KWT » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:Source of 40% was Galveston city official in the city's official news conference.


Then expect this to one of the deadilest hurricane in the last 100 years up there with Katrina...this willbe one hell of a wake up call to all the idoits that think you can just ride out storms like this when all the officals say your putting your life at risk.
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#11280 Postby Raebie » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:17 pm

He said it like 5 minutes ago.
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