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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12441 Postby Aristotle » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:49 am

It looks like the Seawall is doing its job. Geraldo may be there all night. Water is over topping the wall but the surge is not over the wall. Of course it is in the Dead Center of the Eye Wall. So Who knows. When the southern part of the eye wall comes up maybe surge will be worse. I Don't know how that works?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12442 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:49 am

The 135 figure Geraldo measure was 135 km/h or 84 mph, which is about right.
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#12443 Postby Sonica » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:49 am

OK, going to bed. Can't stand reading a 100 posts of how wrong Geraldo is.
Of course, it's Fox and it's called ratings but to hear it over and over here makes me bored. They probably know the setting is wrong and are ding it on purpose.
But look how much it's talked about so........they won.

May God with all in need tonight.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12444 Postby soonertwister » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:50 am

Jijenji wrote:Why is Geraldo still out on the seawall? Dude is just asking to get sucked out.


He's not. He's several feet above it.
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#12445 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:50 am

The worst of the surge still is yet to come for Galveston. The worst of the winds are either passing through or have just now ended, but that surge is really going to keep ramping up another 1-2 hours.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12446 Postby johngaltfla » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:50 am

Jijenji wrote:Why is Geraldo still out on the seawall? Dude is just asking to get sucked out.


Go to KHOU's home page. You'll feel better. Much better coverage than FNC. :wink:
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12447 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:50 am

don't know either how flow will be...is worst surge taking place now....or on the other side of the wall.....easier to see how winds will flow and push water when area not so close to actual eye!

Aristotle wrote:It looks like the Seawall is doing its job. Geraldo may be there all night. Water is over topping the wall but the surge is not over the wall. Of course it is in the Dead Center of the Eye Wall. So Who knows. When the southern part of the eye wall comes up maybe surge will be worse. I Don't know how that works?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12448 Postby bighaben » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:50 am

what about reverse surge, once the storm passes, the water would be coming out of the bay onto the unprotected backside of GI, I've heard it happened in a past hurricane, what are the chances of that happening? If that happens the seawall is useless.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12449 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:51 am

Ptarmigan wrote:The 135 figure Geraldo measure was 135 km/h or 84 mph, which is about right.


Probably, but he's saying 'miles per hour' so it's blatant misinformation.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12450 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:52 am

bighaben wrote:what about reverse surge, once the storm passes, the water would be coming out of the bay onto the unprotected backside of GI, I've heard it happened in a past hurricane, what are the chances of that happening? If that happens the seawall is useless.


I think Steve Lyons was talking about this happening? Does someone know exactly what he was talking about?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12451 Postby kurtpage » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:53 am

fasterdisaster wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:The 135 figure Geraldo measure was 135 km/h or 84 mph, which is about right.


Probably, but he's saying 'miles per hour' so it's blatant misinformation.


He is having the info reported to him....the guy reporting it may not know the difference...he is just reporting what he is being told.
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#12452 Postby capepoint » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:53 am

reporters on galveston seawall now in eye.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12453 Postby kurtpage » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:53 am

fasterdisaster wrote:
bighaben wrote:what about reverse surge, once the storm passes, the water would be coming out of the bay onto the unprotected backside of GI, I've heard it happened in a past hurricane, what are the chances of that happening? If that happens the seawall is useless.


I think Steve Lyons was talking about this happening? Does someone know exactly what he was talking about?



From what I understand...Galveston Bay will flood into the backside of Galveston when the winds change direction...
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12454 Postby Aristotle » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:54 am

soonertwister wrote:
Jijenji wrote:Why is Geraldo still out on the seawall? Dude is just asking to get sucked out.


He's not. He's several feet above it.


Splitting hairs. 1 30 footer and he's swimming.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12455 Postby johngaltfla » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:54 am

fasterdisaster wrote:
bighaben wrote:what about reverse surge, once the storm passes, the water would be coming out of the bay onto the unprotected backside of GI, I've heard it happened in a past hurricane, what are the chances of that happening? If that happens the seawall is useless.


I think Steve Lyons was talking about this happening? Does someone know exactly what he was talking about?


NHC just had someone on MSNBC; apparently everyone forgot that the backside of the storm will overflow the island from the other direction when it passes north of Houston and the wind changes direction. Add in the water that is in the bay has to go somewhere when the winds reverse direction and he made perfect sense. Wish I had caught his name.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 2 - Discussion

#12456 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:54 am

stephanie abrams in galveston near wall...she has seen 78mph so far tonight. that may be sustained. she didn't clarify.
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#12457 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:54 am

capepoint wrote:reporters on galveston seawall now in eye.


There aren't any reporters on the seawall, as was said they are all several feet above it.
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#12458 Postby mtm4319 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:56 am

capepoint wrote:reporters on galveston seawall now in eye.


Yep, looks like the northwest corner of the eye based on radar. Center of the eye still about an hour offshore.
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#12459 Postby WxGuy1 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:56 am

The area from Bolivar Peninsula to Sabine Pass will likely have the strongest winds and highest surge from Ike. What's the highest elevation on B. Peninsula? I have to think that the entire peninsula is experiencing near max wind and max surge, and probability of surviving there if you aren't in a very, very sturdy, reinforced building, I fear, is going to be tough.
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#12460 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:56 am

His eye is contracting like crazy right at the last minute. Going off radar alone, I've seen worse looking 115 mph storms, wouldn't be surprised to see an upgrade in the TCR.
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