ATL OMAR: Remnant Low - Discussion
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion
looks like it's trying to pull an Epsilon, I wonder if it will loop around or become extratropical and go into the E. Atlantic
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion
A Tropical Storm again per Best Track:
AL, 15, 2008101800, , BEST, 0, 312N, 533W, 55, 988, TS
AL, 15, 2008101800, , BEST, 0, 312N, 533W, 55, 988, TS
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion
Epsilon_Fan wrote:looks like it's trying to pull an Epsilon, I wonder if it will loop around or become extratropical and go into the E. Atlantic
Hey you're biased!!!!!
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CENTRAL CONVECTION...AND I USE THAT TERM QUITE LOOSELY IN THIS
CASE...HAS CONTINUED TO RAPIDLY DECREASE AND INNER-CORE CLOUD TOPS
ARE BARELY -20C...WITH MOST TOPS WARMER THAN -10C. ONE COULD
CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT OMAR MAY NOT EVEN BE A TROPICAL CYCLONE.

Very warm cloud tops indeed, but there still is that eye feature.
THE INITIAL INTENSITY ESTIMATE OF 50 KT IS BASED THE WELL-DEFINED
EYE-LIKE FEATURE AND A DVORAK CI NUMBER OF T3.0/45 KT FROM TAFB.
CASE...HAS CONTINUED TO RAPIDLY DECREASE AND INNER-CORE CLOUD TOPS
ARE BARELY -20C...WITH MOST TOPS WARMER THAN -10C. ONE COULD
CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT OMAR MAY NOT EVEN BE A TROPICAL CYCLONE.

Very warm cloud tops indeed, but there still is that eye feature.
THE INITIAL INTENSITY ESTIMATE OF 50 KT IS BASED THE WELL-DEFINED
EYE-LIKE FEATURE AND A DVORAK CI NUMBER OF T3.0/45 KT FROM TAFB.
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ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm
----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 18 OCT 2008 Time : 094500 UTC
Lat : 33:01:20 N Lon : 51:21:09 W
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
1.1 /1011.0mb/ 25.0kt
Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
1.0 1.0 1.0
Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -2.6mb
Center Temp : +16.9C Cloud Region Temp : 6.5C
Scene Type : SHEAR (>1.25^ TO DG)
Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION
Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC
Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : ON
Rapid Dissipation Flag : ON
****************************************************
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm
----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 18 OCT 2008 Time : 094500 UTC
Lat : 33:01:20 N Lon : 51:21:09 W
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
1.1 /1011.0mb/ 25.0kt
Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
1.0 1.0 1.0
Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -2.6mb
Center Temp : +16.9C Cloud Region Temp : 6.5C
Scene Type : SHEAR (>1.25^ TO DG)
Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION
Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC
Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : ON
Rapid Dissipation Flag : ON
****************************************************
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Re: ATL OMAR: Tropical Storm - Discussion
Finnally the last advisory has been written at 11 AM EDT.
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Re: ATL OMAR: Remnant Low - Discussion
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ABNT20 KNHC 190543
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN OCT 19 2008
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...
THE REMNANTS OF OMAR ARE CENTERED ABOUT 900 MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF
BERMUDA. RE-DEVELOPMENT AS A TROPICAL CYCLONE IS NOT EXPECTED.
AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER IS OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN
SEA...ASSOCIATED WITH A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE. LITTLE MOTION
IS ANTICIPATED AND DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO OCCUR.
THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY PRODUCE CLOUDINESS AND HEAVY RAINS OVER
PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AMERICA...PRIMARILY OVER BELIZE AND THE EASTERN
YUCATAN PENINSULA OF MEXICO.
CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE CENTERED
ABOUT 900 MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS REMAIN DISORGANIZED.
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
$$
FORECASTER BEVEN
ABNT20 KNHC 190543
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN OCT 19 2008
FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...
THE REMNANTS OF OMAR ARE CENTERED ABOUT 900 MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF
BERMUDA. RE-DEVELOPMENT AS A TROPICAL CYCLONE IS NOT EXPECTED.
AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER IS OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN
SEA...ASSOCIATED WITH A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE. LITTLE MOTION
IS ANTICIPATED AND DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO OCCUR.
THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY PRODUCE CLOUDINESS AND HEAVY RAINS OVER
PORTIONS OF CENTRAL AMERICA...PRIMARILY OVER BELIZE AND THE EASTERN
YUCATAN PENINSULA OF MEXICO.
CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE CENTERED
ABOUT 900 MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS REMAIN DISORGANIZED.
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
$$
FORECASTER BEVEN
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Re: ATL OMAR: Remnant Low - Discussion
Just have to get a post on this system...
I feel this was a borderline cat4. I don't understand the 125 mph peak.
I feel this was a borderline cat4. I don't understand the 125 mph peak.
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